From gd891 at hotmail.com Mon Oct 1 06:28:23 2007 From: gd891 at hotmail.com (g) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 08:28:23 -0500 Subject: [Aslml] VotG In-Reply-To: <008c01c80318$6abe1640$030ba8c0@RustyNail> References: <755177.87440.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <008c01c80318$6abe1640$030ba8c0@RustyNail> Message-ID: Anyone have any word on Valor of the Guards? I'm not trying to start a pissing match about MMP's production schedule. I'm just interested in the latest word on when this one comes out. Trying to decide if we should start another OCS game, or polish up on our ASL rules in anticipation. Greg From garciagd at velocity.net Mon Oct 1 06:49:18 2007 From: garciagd at velocity.net (roger whelan) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 09:49:18 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] VotG References: <755177.87440.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com><008c01c80318$6abe1640$030ba8c0@RustyNail> Message-ID: <002e01c80431$dd4f27c0$3903010a@gecac.org> I'd start another OCS game:>)))) They have been mum on it lately... I know it was hopes to have it out by the end of the year.... Peace Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "g" To: Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:28 AM Subject: [Aslml] VotG > Anyone have any word on Valor of the Guards? > > I'm not trying to start a pissing match about MMP's production schedule. > I'm just interested in the latest word on when this one comes out. > > Trying to decide if we should start another OCS game, or polish up on our > ASL rules in anticipation. > > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > > From gd891 at hotmail.com Mon Oct 1 07:23:20 2007 From: gd891 at hotmail.com (g) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 09:23:20 -0500 Subject: [Aslml] VotG In-Reply-To: <002e01c80431$dd4f27c0$3903010a@gecac.org> References: <755177.87440.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com><008c01c80318$6abe1640$030ba8c0@RustyNail> <002e01c80431$dd4f27c0$3903010a@gecac.org> Message-ID: Thanks Roger. I'll start a game of DAK starting from the Italian invasion. At 178 turns and covering 2 years, it should get us to the next MMP release. (NOW I've started a pissing match....) -----Original Message----- From: roger whelan [mailto:garciagd at velocity.net] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 8:49 AM To: g; aslml-aslml.net at lists.aslml.net Subject: Re: [Aslml] VotG I'd start another OCS game:>)))) They have been mum on it lately... I know it was hopes to have it out by the end of the year.... Peace Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "g" To: Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:28 AM Subject: [Aslml] VotG > Anyone have any word on Valor of the Guards? > > I'm not trying to start a pissing match about MMP's production schedule. > I'm just interested in the latest word on when this one comes out. > > Trying to decide if we should start another OCS game, or polish up on our > ASL rules in anticipation. > > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > > From geb3 at inter.net Mon Oct 1 17:35:15 2007 From: geb3 at inter.net (George Bates) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 09:35:15 +0900 Subject: [Aslml] VotG In-Reply-To: <002e01c80431$dd4f27c0$3903010a@gecac.org> Message-ID: <001301c8048c$1d3eda10$030ba8c0@RustyNail> >From what I've seen on CSW, some components have been printed but others are still in layout. I was shocked to hear Brian say they still have 3 people doing layout work on the project. The target now appears to be end of the year. Cheers! George "I'm only tellin' ya what I heard" Bates -----Original Message----- From: aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net [mailto:aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net] On Behalf Of roger whelan Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:49 PM To: g; aslml-aslml.net at lists.aslml.net Subject: Re: [Aslml] VotG I'd start another OCS game:>)))) They have been mum on it lately... I know it was hopes to have it out by the end of the year.... Peace Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "g" To: Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:28 AM Subject: [Aslml] VotG > Anyone have any word on Valor of the Guards? > > I'm not trying to start a pissing match about MMP's production > schedule. I'm just interested in the latest word on when this one > comes out. > > Trying to decide if we should start another OCS game, or polish up on > our ASL rules in anticipation. > > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > > _______________________________________________ Aslml mailing list Aslml at lists.aslml.net http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net From arlenvanek at hotmail.com Mon Oct 1 21:56:00 2007 From: arlenvanek at hotmail.com (Arlen Vanek) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 23:56:00 -0500 Subject: [Aslml] VotG References: <001301c8048c$1d3eda10$030ba8c0@RustyNail> Message-ID: at least they've released few returned - any early feedback on the scenarios??? av ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bates" To: "'roger whelan'" ; "'g'" ; Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [Aslml] VotG > >From what I've seen on CSW, some components have been printed but others > >are > still in layout. I was shocked to hear Brian say they still have 3 > people > doing layout work on the project. The target now appears to be end of the > year. > > Cheers! > > George "I'm only tellin' ya what I heard" Bates > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net [mailto:aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net] > On Behalf Of roger whelan > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:49 PM > To: g; aslml-aslml.net at lists.aslml.net > Subject: Re: [Aslml] VotG > > > I'd start another OCS game:>)))) > > They have been mum on it lately... I know it was hopes to have it out by > the > > end of the year.... > > Peace > > Roger > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "g" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:28 AM > Subject: [Aslml] VotG > > >> Anyone have any word on Valor of the Guards? >> >> I'm not trying to start a pissing match about MMP's production >> schedule. I'm just interested in the latest word on when this one >> comes out. >> >> Trying to decide if we should start another OCS game, or polish up on >> our ASL rules in anticipation. >> >> Greg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aslml mailing list >> Aslml at lists.aslml.net >> http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net >> To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > From geb3 at inter.net Mon Oct 1 22:15:15 2007 From: geb3 at inter.net (George Bates) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:15:15 +0900 Subject: [Aslml] VotG In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004701c804b3$3b922630$030ba8c0@RustyNail> "Ghost Riders" & "Red Don" rock. Cheers! - G -----Original Message----- From: Arlen Vanek [mailto:arlenvanek at hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 1:56 PM To: George Bates; 'roger whelan'; 'g'; aslml-aslml.net at lists.aslml.net Subject: Re: [Aslml] VotG at least they've released few returned - any early feedback on the scenarios??? av ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bates" To: "'roger whelan'" ; "'g'" ; Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [Aslml] VotG > >From what I've seen on CSW, some components have been printed but > >others > >are > still in layout. I was shocked to hear Brian say they still have 3 > people > doing layout work on the project. The target now appears to be end of > the year. > > Cheers! > > George "I'm only tellin' ya what I heard" Bates > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net > [mailto:aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net] > On Behalf Of roger whelan > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:49 PM > To: g; aslml-aslml.net at lists.aslml.net > Subject: Re: [Aslml] VotG > > > I'd start another OCS game:>)))) > > They have been mum on it lately... I know it was hopes to have it out > by > the > > end of the year.... > > Peace > > Roger > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "g" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:28 AM > Subject: [Aslml] VotG > > >> Anyone have any word on Valor of the Guards? >> >> I'm not trying to start a pissing match about MMP's production >> schedule. I'm just interested in the latest word on when this one >> comes out. >> >> Trying to decide if we should start another OCS game, or polish up on >> our ASL rules in anticipation. >> >> Greg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aslml mailing list >> Aslml at lists.aslml.net >> http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net >> To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > From reamees at earthlink.net Mon Oct 8 09:38:37 2007 From: reamees at earthlink.net (Raymond Woloszyn) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:38:37 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Aslml] Signing Off... Message-ID: <5352916.1191861517319.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Not having the time anymore to surf the web as much as I would like, I will be signing off this board in favor of the GameSquad ASL forum. For those with dial up access, I can see the utility of a text driven message board but for me it is simply a simplication of the myriad of things I have to get done in a twenty-four hour day which includes a ten hour or more work day as a financial controller. All the best and adieu, Raymond "Zadra" Woloszyn From geb3 at inter.net Mon Oct 8 15:33:12 2007 From: geb3 at inter.net (George Bates) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 07:33:12 +0900 Subject: [Aslml] Signing Off... In-Reply-To: <5352916.1191861517319.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <001301c809fb$3d4da880$030ba8c0@RustyNail> Say it ain't so, Ray! Cheers! - G -----Original Message----- From: aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net [mailto:aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net] On Behalf Of Raymond Woloszyn Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:39 AM To: aslml at lists.aslml.net Subject: [Aslml] Signing Off... Not having the time anymore to surf the web as much as I would like, I will be signing off this board in favor of the GameSquad ASL forum. For those with dial up access, I can see the utility of a text driven message board but for me it is simply a simplication of the myriad of things I have to get done in a twenty-four hour day which includes a ten hour or more work day as a financial controller. All the best and adieu, Raymond "Zadra" Woloszyn _______________________________________________ Aslml mailing list Aslml at lists.aslml.net http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net From hofors at lysator.liu.se Tue Oct 9 04:35:06 2007 From: hofors at lysator.liu.se (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mattias_R=F6nnblom?=) Date: 09 Oct 2007 13:35:06 +0200 Subject: [Aslml] Opinions wanted - ELR of 468SS In-Reply-To: <470015D0.20201@actewagl.net.au> References: <001201c80387$cd343c40$030ba8c0@RustyNail> <470015D0.20201@actewagl.net.au> Message-ID: <878x6cttat.fsf@isengard.friendlyfire.se> SS-Division Nord had some problem with failing morale in the fighting for Salla in Finland during the early days of Barbarossa. Bill writes: > While the early SS were untested and poorly equipped, they were still > volunteers who had been indoctrinated (willingly) into believing they > were fighting a crusade. > > They suffered heavy losses because they foolhardily continued to attack > using poor tactics, but I have not read of accounts of early breakdown > of morale. > > I am no big fan of the SS, but think they should retain the underlined > morale for 5 ELR from the begining. In fact there is a greater case to > reduce the ELR as the war goes on. > > I would look at using the trench/minor axis LMG and MMG for the early > campaigns. > > Bill Brodie > Canberra, Australia > > George Bates wrote: > > >OK, guys, you've got an early war scenario - Poland, Netherlands, Belgium or > >France - in which untested and possibly poorly equipped SS units are in play > >and you want to represent this by assigning them an ELR of 4. What squad > >type do they become upon ELR? > > > >A) 447SS > >B) 467 with SSR raising b/s ML to 8 > >C) Other > > > >468SS were issued in a core module in Doomed Battalions. 838SS also > >appeared there as replacement for the KGP2 purple people eaters. 548SS & > >447SS have only appeared in ABTF, not in any core module. > > > >This is not a trick question; but I believe there are numerous right > >answers. I'll withhold my preference and rationale until I see what you > >guys come up with. > > > >Cheers! > > > >George Bates > >Yokohama, Japan > >Gaming by the Bay 1st Sunday of each month. > >Swim on over! We'll leave the light on for you. > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Aslml mailing list > >Aslml at lists.aslml.net > >http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > >To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net From aslml at vftt.co.uk Wed Oct 10 08:10:22 2007 From: aslml at vftt.co.uk (Pete Phillipps) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:10:22 +0100 Subject: [Aslml] ASL Great Quote from Consimworld Message-ID: <05e601c80b4f$adf055b0$0301a8c0@kilchoan> Hi Everyone, If the spuddies were still going, this would have to be a winner!! "the hammering started with this statement: 'OK, Turn one, wind DR.'" Posted by Fred Schwarz on Consimworld's ASL forum Pete "Many [wargame] battles have been fought and won by soldiers nourished on beer" - Frederick the Great, 1777 Download VIEW FROM THE TRENCHES (Britain's Premier ASL Journal) free from http://www.vftt.co.uk Get the latest news about HEROES(ASL in Blackpool) at http://www.vftt.co.uk/heroesdetails.asp Get the latest news about INTENSIVE FIRE (Britain's biggest ASL tournament) at http://www.vftt.co.uk/ifdetails.asp Get the latest UK ASL Tournament news at http://www.asltourneys.co.uk Support the best at http://www.manutd.com/ From geb3 at inter.net Sun Oct 14 04:01:37 2007 From: geb3 at inter.net (George Bates) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 20:01:37 +0900 Subject: [Aslml] fueling list discussion Message-ID: <003301c80e51$9af0c7b0$030ba8c0@RustyNail> ... so to speak. In the midst of a hot little match of 112 "Out Of Cowardice" (the smallest AOO scenario) as the Yugoslavs against Lee Fehlberg's Huns. We are uncertain as to whether the Huns should be making the Mechanical Reliability DRs for their vehicles even on entry in T1. Should it be possible for some of these tin cans to not even make it into play? For pity's sake, we put the DRs off until T2, but even so if you search the wooded backroads in the hills of northern Serbia today you may find one of Lee's Toldis rusting there still. Also, in the interest of time, we had Lee pay 1/4 of his MPs + 1 MP for the road when he tried to overrun a 437/LMG & 7-0 in FHs in a woods-road hex. The 8FP+4 attack failed, but should we have had him pay the woods movement cost and taken the bog check? This is a nifty little contest - lousy vs. lousier. Talk about "going to war with the army that you have." ELR 1 & 2 disrupto boys everywhere. First time I have seen a scenario in which the partisans are the best quality troops on the board. Both sides have to "embrace The Suck" and get on with the mission. Now in T2 Yugo. We'll let you know how it turns out. Cheers! George "more goulash, please" Bates Yokohama, Japan Gaming by the Bay 1st Sunday of each month. Swim on over! We'll leave the light on for you. From cfago at ix.netcom.com Sun Oct 14 05:25:35 2007 From: cfago at ix.netcom.com (Carl D. Fago) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 08:25:35 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Aslml] fueling list discussion Message-ID: <5154539.1192364736247.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Thought it was a bit quiet. Mech Reliability - entering from offboard, the AFVs are starting in Motion so they don't expend a Start MP. If they don't expend a Start MP, they don't check Mech Reliability. OVR in Woods-Road - I think you did it right. B13.32 Carl -----Original Message----- >From: George Bates >Sent: Oct 14, 2007 7:01 AM >To: aslml-aslml.net at lists.aslml.net >Subject: [Aslml] fueling list discussion > > ... so to speak. > >In the midst of a hot little match of 112 "Out Of Cowardice" (the smallest >AOO scenario) as the Yugoslavs against Lee Fehlberg's Huns. We are >uncertain as to whether the Huns should be making the Mechanical Reliability >DRs for their vehicles even on entry in T1. Should it be possible for some >of these tin cans to not even make it into play? For pity's sake, we put >the DRs off until T2, but even so if you search the wooded backroads in the >hills of northern Serbia today you may find one of Lee's Toldis rusting >there still. > >Also, in the interest of time, we had Lee pay 1/4 of his MPs + 1 MP for the >road when he tried to overrun a 437/LMG & 7-0 in FHs in a woods-road hex. >The 8FP+4 attack failed, but should we have had him pay the woods movement >cost and taken the bog check? > >This is a nifty little contest - lousy vs. lousier. Talk about "going to >war with the army that you have." ELR 1 & 2 disrupto boys everywhere. >First time I have seen a scenario in which the partisans are the best >quality troops on the board. Both sides have to "embrace The Suck" and get >on with the mission. Now in T2 Yugo. We'll let you know how it turns out. > >Cheers! > >George "more goulash, please" Bates >Yokohama, Japan >Gaming by the Bay 1st Sunday of each month. >Swim on over! We'll leave the light on for you. > > >_______________________________________________ >Aslml mailing list >Aslml at lists.aslml.net >http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net >To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net From geb3 at inter.net Sun Oct 14 09:43:26 2007 From: geb3 at inter.net (George Bates) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 01:43:26 +0900 Subject: [Aslml] RE2: fueling list discussion In-Reply-To: <5154539.1192364736247.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <003c01c80e81$5b8e1f70$030ba8c0@RustyNail> Carl, check SSR2. Also required for vehicles in motion... Thanks on the OVR. Cheers! - G -----Original Message----- From: aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net [mailto:aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net] On Behalf Of Carl D. Fago Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 9:26 PM To: ASLML Subject: Re: [Aslml] fueling list discussion Thought it was a bit quiet. Mech Reliability - entering from offboard, the AFVs are starting in Motion so they don't expend a Start MP. If they don't expend a Start MP, they don't check Mech Reliability. OVR in Woods-Road - I think you did it right. B13.32 Carl -----Original Message----- >From: George Bates >Sent: Oct 14, 2007 7:01 AM >To: aslml-aslml.net at lists.aslml.net >Subject: [Aslml] fueling list discussion > > ... so to speak. > >In the midst of a hot little match of 112 "Out Of Cowardice" (the >smallest AOO scenario) as the Yugoslavs against Lee Fehlberg's Huns. >We are uncertain as to whether the Huns should be making the Mechanical >Reliability DRs for their vehicles even on entry in T1. Should it be >possible for some of these tin cans to not even make it into play? For >pity's sake, we put the DRs off until T2, but even so if you search the >wooded backroads in the hills of northern Serbia today you may find one >of Lee's Toldis rusting there still. > >Also, in the interest of time, we had Lee pay 1/4 of his MPs + 1 MP for >the road when he tried to overrun a 437/LMG & 7-0 in FHs in a >woods-road hex. The 8FP+4 attack failed, but should we have had him pay >the woods movement cost and taken the bog check? > >This is a nifty little contest - lousy vs. lousier. Talk about "going >to war with the army that you have." ELR 1 & 2 disrupto boys >everywhere. First time I have seen a scenario in which the partisans >are the best quality troops on the board. Both sides have to "embrace >The Suck" and get on with the mission. Now in T2 Yugo. We'll let you >know how it turns out. > >Cheers! > >George "more goulash, please" Bates >Yokohama, Japan >Gaming by the Bay 1st Sunday of each month. >Swim on over! We'll leave the light on for you. > > >_______________________________________________ >Aslml mailing list >Aslml at lists.aslml.net >http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net >To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net _______________________________________________ Aslml mailing list Aslml at lists.aslml.net http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net From hobbies at revealed.net Sun Oct 14 13:41:41 2007 From: hobbies at revealed.net (hobbies at revealed.net) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:41:41 -0500 Subject: [Aslml] ISP Problems - Key's Games & Hobbies Message-ID: <20071014154141.liuqxnkw4kokk4kc@webmail.revealed.net> My apologies in advance for the waste of bandwidth. On 8 October, my ISP experienced a catastrophic hit on their email system. This isn't the first time but it is the longest it's been down. Despite repeated assurances of a quick fix, there's only been a temporary, back door solution and don't know how long that will hold; unfortunately, I can't match this solution up with the rest of my databases. There's about 120 emails in the queue waiting to be sent. If the problem isn't fixed by tomorrow, I'll start using the gmail address in the cc line. If someone can post this onto the other ASL forums, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks. Alex Key's Games & Hobbies From play_asl_838 at yahoo.com Mon Oct 15 07:30:25 2007 From: play_asl_838 at yahoo.com (kevin meyer) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 07:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Aslml] RE2: fueling list discussion In-Reply-To: <003c01c80e81$5b8e1f70$030ba8c0@RustyNail> Message-ID: <460155.98029.qm@web60912.mail.yahoo.com> Played this one as yes they do take the Mech Reliability DR even if offboard. As per SSR2, they were in motion at the start of the turn. Lost the AC to a dry gas tank before it entered onboard. Main reason we played it this way was we couldn't find anything in the rules or SSRs which said not to do it for offboard vehicles. Kevin --- George Bates wrote: > Carl, check SSR2. Also required for vehicles in > motion... > Thanks on the OVR. > Cheers! > > - G > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net > [mailto:aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net] > On Behalf Of Carl D. Fago > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 9:26 PM > To: ASLML > Subject: Re: [Aslml] fueling list discussion > > > Thought it was a bit quiet. > > Mech Reliability - entering from offboard, the AFVs > are starting in Motion > so they don't expend a Start MP. If they don't > expend a Start MP, they > don't check Mech Reliability. > > OVR in Woods-Road - I think you did it right. B13.32 > > Carl > > -----Original Message----- > >From: George Bates > >Sent: Oct 14, 2007 7:01 AM > >To: aslml-aslml.net at lists.aslml.net > >Subject: [Aslml] fueling list discussion > > > > ... so to speak. > > > >In the midst of a hot little match of 112 "Out Of > Cowardice" (the > >smallest AOO scenario) as the Yugoslavs against Lee > Fehlberg's Huns. > >We are uncertain as to whether the Huns should be > making the Mechanical > >Reliability DRs for their vehicles even on entry in > T1. Should it be > >possible for some of these tin cans to not even > make it into play? For > >pity's sake, we put the DRs off until T2, but even > so if you search the > >wooded backroads in the hills of northern Serbia > today you may find one > >of Lee's Toldis rusting there still. > > > >Also, in the interest of time, we had Lee pay 1/4 > of his MPs + 1 MP for > >the road when he tried to overrun a 437/LMG & 7-0 > in FHs in a > >woods-road hex. The 8FP+4 attack failed, but should > we have had him pay > >the woods movement cost and taken the bog check? > > > >This is a nifty little contest - lousy vs. lousier. > Talk about "going > >to war with the army that you have." ELR 1 & 2 > disrupto boys > >everywhere. First time I have seen a scenario in > which the partisans > >are the best quality troops on the board. Both > sides have to "embrace > >The Suck" and get on with the mission. Now in T2 > Yugo. We'll let you > >know how it turns out. > > > >Cheers! > > > >George "more goulash, please" Bates > >Yokohama, Japan > >Gaming by the Bay 1st Sunday of each month. > >Swim on over! 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TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From craig.p.walters at monsanto.com Tue Oct 16 01:57:48 2007 From: craig.p.walters at monsanto.com (WALTERS, CRAIG P [AG/1000]) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 03:57:48 -0500 Subject: [Aslml] Concealment setup question Message-ID: <11B103E2F80A8D45865D376D169299611967C0@NA1000EXM02.na.ds.monsanto.com> Getting ready to play J122 - Extracurricular Activities and I have a question about concealment. A12.12 outlines the setup procedures wrt concealment. It says to follow these steps if there are enemy units starting on board: 1. I place my units on board out of the vision of my opponent. 2. I place OB-provided "?" as dummy stacks or on units in concealment terrain. 3. My opponent places his units similarly. 4. Any of our units out of LOS of our opponent's units can be concealed. This is modified somewhat if my opponent starts with no units on-board: 1. I place my units on board out of the vision of my opponent. 2. I place OB-provided "?" as dummy stacks or on units in concealment terrain. 3. I can place "?" counters on all of my non-dummy stacks before my opponent sees the board. 4. My opponent does not set up until early in his rally phase. My question is, in J122 the Hungarians can choose to set up partially on board or enter entirely on/after turn 1. I won't know if he has any units set up on board until after he has set up. Which of the above procedures do I follow? Pragmatically it has to be the first one but I don't think the wording of A12.12 makes what to do clear. Craig --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and is intended to be received only by persons entitled to receive such information. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately. Please delete it and all attachments from any servers, hard drives or any other media. Other use of this e-mail by you is strictly prohibited. All e-mails and attachments sent and received are subject to monitoring, reading and archival by Monsanto, including its subsidiaries. The recipient of this e-mail is solely responsible for checking for the presence of "Viruses" or other "Malware". Monsanto, along with its subsidiaries, accepts no liability for any damage caused by any such code transmitted by or accompanying this e-mail or any attachment. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jpcole at westnet.com.au Tue Oct 16 02:28:25 2007 From: jpcole at westnet.com.au (Jon Cole) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:28:25 +0800 Subject: [Aslml] Concealment setup question References: <11B103E2F80A8D45865D376D169299611967C0@NA1000EXM02.na.ds.monsanto.com> Message-ID: <005d01c80fd6$e784b0b0$6401a8c0@401b29ad67014ec> Hi Craig The first option is the one you have to follow. As a result, your opponent will be able to see the top counter in each of your stacks. He then commences his setup (ASOP pregame sequence). If he decides not to set up any units on board, all your units will then (but not until then) gain "?" pre-game. If all his units are entering from offboard, they are then placed in ASOP step 1.11A Cheers Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "WALTERS, CRAIG P [AG/1000]" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:57 PM Subject: [Aslml] Concealment setup question > Getting ready to play J122 - Extracurricular Activities and I have a > question about concealment. A12.12 outlines the setup procedures wrt > concealment. It says to follow these steps if there are enemy units > starting on board: > 1. I place my units on board out of the vision of my opponent. > 2. I place OB-provided "?" as dummy stacks or on units in concealment > terrain. > 3. My opponent places his units similarly. > 4. Any of our units out of LOS of our opponent's units can be concealed. > > This is modified somewhat if my opponent starts with no units on-board: > 1. I place my units on board out of the vision of my opponent. > 2. I place OB-provided "?" as dummy stacks or on units in concealment > terrain. > 3. I can place "?" counters on all of my non-dummy stacks before my > opponent sees the board. > 4. My opponent does not set up until early in his rally phase. > > My question is, in J122 the Hungarians can choose to set up partially on > board or enter entirely on/after turn 1. I won't know if he has any > units set up on board until after he has set up. Which of the above > procedures do I follow? Pragmatically it has to be the first one but I > don't think the wording of A12.12 makes what to do clear. > > Craig > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This e-mail message may contain privileged and/or confidential > information, and is intended to be received only by persons entitled to > receive such information. If you have received this e-mail in error, > please notify the sender immediately. Please delete it and all attachments > from any servers, hard drives or any other media. 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Monsanto, along with its > subsidiaries, accepts no liability for any damage caused by any such code > transmitted by or accompanying this e-mail or any attachment. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > From klas_malmstrom at yahoo.se Tue Oct 16 02:46:47 2007 From: klas_malmstrom at yahoo.se (=?iso-8859-1?q?Klas=20Malmstr=F6m?=) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:46:47 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Aslml] Concealment setup question In-Reply-To: <005d01c80fd6$e784b0b0$6401a8c0@401b29ad67014ec> Message-ID: <662811.85341.qm@web27903.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi, --- Jon Cole skrev: > Hi Craig > > The first option is the one you have to follow. As a result, your opponent > will be able to see the top counter in each of your stacks. He then > commences his setup (ASOP pregame sequence). If he decides not to set up any > units on board, all your units will then (but not until then) gain "?" > pre-game. > If all his units are entering from offboard, they are then placed in ASOP > step 1.11A When I played this one in Copenhagen earlier this year I think I asked my opponent if he intended to setup something onboard (and he did) and made my setup accordingly. Regards, Klas ------------------------------------------------------- Klas Malmstrom Linkoping, Sweden Email: klas_malmstrom at yahoo.se ------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ G?r det l?ngsamt? Skaffa dig en snabbare bredbandsuppkoppling. S?k och j?mf?r hos Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.se/c-100015813-bredband.html?partnerId=96914325 From jpcole at westnet.com.au Tue Oct 16 02:55:28 2007 From: jpcole at westnet.com.au (Jon Cole) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:55:28 +0800 Subject: [Aslml] Concealment setup question References: <662811.85341.qm@web27903.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006d01c80fda$ae9f6cf0$6401a8c0@401b29ad67014ec> Unfortunately this is not what the rules say :-). The Hungarian player does not have to give any information on his setup, untill the Russian player completes his setup. In addition, the fact that the Hungarian player CAN setup on board prevents the Russian from Boresighting, even if the Hungarian chooses to enter all his forces from offboard on Turn 1 Cheers Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Klas Malmstr?m" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [Aslml] Concealment setup question Hi, --- Jon Cole skrev: > Hi Craig > > The first option is the one you have to follow. As a result, your opponent > will be able to see the top counter in each of your stacks. He then > commences his setup (ASOP pregame sequence). If he decides not to set up > any > units on board, all your units will then (but not until then) gain "?" > pre-game. > If all his units are entering from offboard, they are then placed in ASOP > step 1.11A When I played this one in Copenhagen earlier this year I think I asked my opponent if he intended to setup something onboard (and he did) and made my setup accordingly. Regards, Klas ------------------------------------------------------- Klas Malmstrom Linkoping, Sweden Email: klas_malmstrom at yahoo.se ------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ G?r det l?ngsamt? Skaffa dig en snabbare bredbandsuppkoppling. S?k och j?mf?r hos Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.se/c-100015813-bredband.html?partnerId=96914325 _______________________________________________ Aslml mailing list Aslml at lists.aslml.net http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net From klas_malmstrom at yahoo.se Tue Oct 16 04:14:03 2007 From: klas_malmstrom at yahoo.se (=?iso-8859-1?q?Klas=20Malmstr=F6m?=) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:14:03 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Aslml] Concealment setup question In-Reply-To: <006d01c80fda$ae9f6cf0$6401a8c0@401b29ad67014ec> Message-ID: <231436.8326.qm@web27914.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi, --- Jon Cole skrev: > > Unfortunately this is not what the rules say :-). > > The Hungarian player does not have to give any information on his setup, > untill the Russian player completes his setup. > > In addition, the fact that the Hungarian player CAN setup on board prevents > the Russian from Boresighting, even if the Hungarian chooses to enter all > his forces from offboard on Turn 1 Not sure the rule handles the situation where the opponent may or may not set up units onboard. The BS/?-placement issues should have been handled by a SSR, IMO. Regards, Klas ------------------------------------------------------- Klas Malmstrom Linkoping, Sweden Email: klas_malmstrom at yahoo.se ------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ G?r det l?ngsamt? Skaffa dig en snabbare bredbandsuppkoppling. S?k och j?mf?r hos Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.se/c-100015813-bredband.html?partnerId=96914325 From geb3 at inter.net Tue Oct 16 04:47:39 2007 From: geb3 at inter.net (George Bates) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:47:39 +0900 Subject: [Aslml] RE3: fueling list discussion In-Reply-To: <460155.98029.qm@web60912.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005c01c80fea$5f9344f0$030ba8c0@RustyNail> Here's what Perry sed on CSW . He believes you should wait until T2. "They are assumed to be in Motion, but I don't think they actually _are_ in Motion. ;-)" Delphic, as always. Cheers! - G -----Original Message----- From: aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net [mailto:aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net] On Behalf Of kevin meyer Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 11:30 PM To: aslml at lists.aslml.net Subject: Re: [Aslml] RE2: fueling list discussion Played this one as yes they do take the Mech Reliability DR even if offboard. As per SSR2, they were in motion at the start of the turn. Lost the AC to a dry gas tank before it entered onboard. Main reason we played it this way was we couldn't find anything in the rules or SSRs which said not to do it for offboard vehicles. Kevin --- George Bates wrote: > Carl, check SSR2. Also required for vehicles in > motion... > Thanks on the OVR. > Cheers! > > - G > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net > [mailto:aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net] > On Behalf Of Carl D. Fago > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 9:26 PM > To: ASLML > Subject: Re: [Aslml] fueling list discussion > > > Thought it was a bit quiet. > > Mech Reliability - entering from offboard, the AFVs > are starting in Motion > so they don't expend a Start MP. If they don't > expend a Start MP, they > don't check Mech Reliability. > > OVR in Woods-Road - I think you did it right. B13.32 > > Carl > > -----Original Message----- > >From: George Bates > >Sent: Oct 14, 2007 7:01 AM > >To: aslml-aslml.net at lists.aslml.net > >Subject: [Aslml] fueling list discussion > > > > ... so to speak. > > > >In the midst of a hot little match of 112 "Out Of > Cowardice" (the > >smallest AOO scenario) as the Yugoslavs against Lee > Fehlberg's Huns. > >We are uncertain as to whether the Huns should be > making the Mechanical > >Reliability DRs for their vehicles even on entry in > T1. Should it be > >possible for some of these tin cans to not even > make it into play? For > >pity's sake, we put the DRs off until T2, but even > so if you search the > >wooded backroads in the hills of northern Serbia > today you may find one > >of Lee's Toldis rusting there still. > > > >Also, in the interest of time, we had Lee pay 1/4 > of his MPs + 1 MP for > >the road when he tried to overrun a 437/LMG & 7-0 > in FHs in a > >woods-road hex. The 8FP+4 attack failed, but should > we have had him pay > >the woods movement cost and taken the bog check? > > > >This is a nifty little contest - lousy vs. lousier. > Talk about "going > >to war with the army that you have." ELR 1 & 2 > disrupto boys > >everywhere. First time I have seen a scenario in > which the partisans > >are the best quality troops on the board. Both > sides have to "embrace > >The Suck" and get on with the mission. Now in T2 > Yugo. We'll let you > >know how it turns out. > > > >Cheers! > > > >George "more goulash, please" Bates > >Yokohama, Japan > >Gaming by the Bay 1st Sunday of each month. > >Swim on over! We'll leave the light on for you. > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Aslml mailing list > >Aslml at lists.aslml.net > >http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > >To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email > webmaster at aslml.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ Aslml mailing list Aslml at lists.aslml.net http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net From chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 11:03:16 2007 From: chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com (Chuck T) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:03:16 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] Concealment setup question In-Reply-To: <231436.8326.qm@web27914.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <006d01c80fda$ae9f6cf0$6401a8c0@401b29ad67014ec> <231436.8326.qm@web27914.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <332a4d030710161103u3a7928ffw54ed35b437414ae9@mail.gmail.com> No one has said and I dont have the card, but does the opponent who has option to set up on/off board setup FIRST or SECOND? If SECOND then obviously it's a problem. -Chuck On 10/16/07, Klas Malmstr?m wrote: > Hi, > > --- Jon Cole skrev: > > > > Unfortunately this is not what the rules say :-). > > > > The Hungarian player does not have to give any information on his setup, > > untill the Russian player completes his setup. > > > > In addition, the fact that the Hungarian player CAN setup on board prevents > > the Russian from Boresighting, even if the Hungarian chooses to enter all > > his forces from offboard on Turn 1 > > Not sure the rule handles the situation where the opponent may or may not set > up > units onboard. > > The BS/?-placement issues should have been handled by a SSR, IMO. > > Regards, > Klas > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Klas Malmstrom > Linkoping, Sweden > Email: klas_malmstrom at yahoo.se > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > __________________________________________________________ > G?r det l?ngsamt? Skaffa dig en snabbare bredbandsuppkoppling. > S?k och j?mf?r hos Yahoo! Shopping. > http://shopping.yahoo.se/c-100015813-bredband.html?partnerId=96914325 > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > -- Chuck T chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com From aslml at vftt.co.uk Wed Oct 17 13:09:30 2007 From: aslml at vftt.co.uk (Pete Phillipps) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:09:30 +0100 Subject: [Aslml] ASL Vietnam scenarios query In-Reply-To: <05e601c80b4f$adf055b0$0301a8c0@kilchoan> Message-ID: <081b01c810f9$a0c14160$0401a8c0@satellitepro> Hi Everyone, I have a set of Vietnam rules, counters and two scenarios in my files but I have no idea where I got them from. The rules are Chapter V, version 1.0.6, dated 27 Nov 2001, while the scenarios are 'VN1 First Blood' by Frank Meier, and 'VN5 Counterambush' is by Mark C. Drake. Does anyone know anything about them? Pete "Many [wargame] battles have been fought and won by soldiers nourished on beer" - Frederick the Great, 1777 Download VIEW FROM THE TRENCHES (Britain's Premier ASL Journal) free from http://www.vftt.co.uk Get the latest news about HEROES(ASL in Blackpool) at http://www.vftt.co.uk/heroesdetails.asp Get the latest news about INTENSIVE FIRE (Britain's biggest ASL tournament) at http://www.vftt.co.uk/ifdetails.asp Get the latest UK ASL Tournament news at http://www.asltourneys.co.uk Support the best at http://www.manutd.com/ From paul.ferraro at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 15:40:55 2007 From: paul.ferraro at gmail.com (Paul Ferraro) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:40:55 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] ASL Vietnam scenarios query In-Reply-To: <081b01c810f9$a0c14160$0401a8c0@satellitepro> References: <05e601c80b4f$adf055b0$0301a8c0@kilchoan> <081b01c810f9$a0c14160$0401a8c0@satellitepro> Message-ID: <635ae5ca0710171540r48856041o6ac712cf98e4dc9a@mail.gmail.com> There was an ASL variant that was being worked on that was Vietnam era. There is a Yahoo group: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/VNASL/ Not sure if that is what you have... On 10/17/07, Pete Phillipps wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I have a set of Vietnam rules, counters and two scenarios in my > files but I have no idea where I got them from. The rules are Chapter V, > version 1.0.6, dated 27 Nov 2001, while the scenarios are 'VN1 First Blood' > by Frank Meier, and 'VN5 Counterambush' is by Mark C. Drake. Does anyone > know anything about them? > > Pete > > "Many [wargame] battles have been fought and won by soldiers nourished on > beer" - Frederick the Great, 1777 > Download VIEW FROM THE TRENCHES (Britain's Premier ASL Journal) free from > http://www.vftt.co.uk > Get the latest news about HEROES(ASL in Blackpool) at > http://www.vftt.co.uk/heroesdetails.asp > Get the latest news about INTENSIVE FIRE (Britain's biggest ASL tournament) > at http://www.vftt.co.uk/ifdetails.asp > Get the latest UK ASL Tournament news at http://www.asltourneys.co.uk > Support the best at http://www.manutd.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > From aslbunker at yahoo.com Wed Oct 17 16:35:52 2007 From: aslbunker at yahoo.com (Vic Provost) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Aslml] Dispatches from the Bunker #25 has Shipped. Message-ID: <563605.51822.qm@web32601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings from the Bunker and hello to all at the Main ASL Mailing List. I can Finally report that Dispatches from the Bunker #25 has indeed shipped after several weeks delay and unfortunate equipment failures. (Big sigh of relief :-) I had enough printed up for the Bunker Bash last month and now all my subscribers will finally get a look at what is our 10th anniversary issue. We have 3 good looking scenarios as usual with details below. Our own Jim Torkelson has yet another excellent scenario analysis, this one on HOBs OB8 Bloody Bobruisk. Our Tactical Tips guru Carl Nogueira continues more Terrain mayhem in the final segment on Fire in his Making a Mess Tactical Tips Series. I have local tourney news as usual. 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From klas_malmstrom at yahoo.se Thu Oct 18 13:53:51 2007 From: klas_malmstrom at yahoo.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Klas_Malmstr=F6m?=) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:53:51 +0200 Subject: [Aslml] Pictures from ASLOK 2007 Message-ID: <4717C7DF.5070800@yahoo.se> Hi, On my webpages http://www.klasm.com you can now see the pictures I took at ASLOK this year. Direct-link: http://www.klasm.com/ASL/AAR/ASLOK_2007/ASLOK_2007.html Regards, Klas From pfph at thuring.com Fri Oct 19 03:06:27 2007 From: pfph at thuring.com (lars thuring) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:06:27 +0200 Subject: [Aslml] Pictures from ASLOK 2007 In-Reply-To: <4717C7DF.5070800@yahoo.se> References: <4717C7DF.5070800@yahoo.se> Message-ID: <471881A3.9000907@thuring.com> Klas Malmstr?m wrote: > Hi, > > On my webpages http://www.klasm.com you can now see the pictures I took at ASLOK > this year. > > Direct-link: http://www.klasm.com/ASL/AAR/ASLOK_2007/ASLOK_2007.html Nice picures - thanks! http://www.klasm.com/ASL/AAR/ASLOK_2007/2007-10-01/ASLOK_2007_07.html The scenario is RBF 10 - Tip off at Tauroggen http://www.klasm.com/ASL/AAR/ASLOK_2007/2007-10-04/ASLOK_2007_19.html I think this is the same one we played many years ago, ASL A115 Blockbusters. http://www.klasm.com/ASL/AAR/ASLOK_2007/2007-10-06/ASLOK_2007_45.html The scenario name is correct. regards, Lars > > Regards, > Klas > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > -- "2b|!2b?" (Hamlet) ASL - http://www.thuring.com/asl Quotes - http://www.thuring.com/life/quotes.html From paul.ferraro at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 04:11:53 2007 From: paul.ferraro at gmail.com (Paul Ferraro) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 07:11:53 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] Pictures from ASLOK 2007 In-Reply-To: <471881A3.9000907@thuring.com> References: <4717C7DF.5070800@yahoo.se> <471881A3.9000907@thuring.com> Message-ID: <635ae5ca0710190411sc3f0b0cw4317aba549990cdb@mail.gmail.com> On my webpages http://www.klasm.com you can now see the pictures I took at ASLOK this year. Direct-link: http://www.klasm.com/ASL/AAR/ASLOK_2007/ASLOK_2007.html ------------------------------------------------ So OK, I admit it, I haven't made it to ASLOK in a few years. I go look at the pictures for 2007 and am just totally amazed. I see JR Tracy hanging in there and looking like his normal self...but who the heck are all those senior citizens? I started looking for bottles of Geritol on the tables. It was like my 25th high school reunion, where I show up and instead of all those people I went to school with, dozens and dozens of geezers show up. You can't even recognize them. Of course, thank God, *I* haven't changed (me and Nancy Bevilacqua)...but for pity sakes what happened to those people?! Just makes you wonder... ;-) From pfph at thuring.com Fri Oct 19 10:30:00 2007 From: pfph at thuring.com (lars thuring) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:30:00 +0200 Subject: [Aslml] Pictures from ASLOK 2007 In-Reply-To: <635ae5ca0710190411sc3f0b0cw4317aba549990cdb@mail.gmail.com> References: <4717C7DF.5070800@yahoo.se> <471881A3.9000907@thuring.com> <635ae5ca0710190411sc3f0b0cw4317aba549990cdb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4718E998.1040004@thuring.com> Paul Ferraro wrote: > On my webpages http://www.klasm.com you can now see the pictures I > took at ASLOK this year. > > Direct-link: http://www.klasm.com/ASL/AAR/ASLOK_2007/ASLOK_2007.html > ------------------------------------------------ > > So OK, I admit it, I haven't made it to ASLOK in a few years. I go > look at the pictures for 2007 and am just totally amazed. > > I see JR Tracy hanging in there and looking like his normal self...but > who the heck are all those senior citizens? I started looking for > bottles of Geritol on the tables. The latest generation of dice towers have a storage compartment for the daily dose! > It was like my 25th high school > reunion, where I show up and instead of all those people I went to > school with, dozens and dozens of geezers show up. You can't even > recognize them. Of course, thank God, *I* haven't changed (me and > Nancy Bevilacqua)...but for pity sakes what happened to those people?! > > Just makes you wonder... > > ;-) So you have go there again to help us liven up the photos and everything! Say 2009 when us poor Scandinavians will be comming again? ;-) best regards, Lars > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > -- "2b|!2b?" (Hamlet) ASL - http://www.thuring.com/asl Quotes - http://www.thuring.com/life/quotes.html From pfph at thuring.com Fri Oct 19 10:30:14 2007 From: pfph at thuring.com (lars thuring) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:30:14 +0200 Subject: [Aslml] =?windows-1252?q?Hakkaa_P=E4=E4lle!_Playtesting?= In-Reply-To: <635ae5ca0710190411sc3f0b0cw4317aba549990cdb@mail.gmail.com> References: <4717C7DF.5070800@yahoo.se> <471881A3.9000907@thuring.com> <635ae5ca0710190411sc3f0b0cw4317aba549990cdb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4718E9A6.3060802@thuring.com> Posted by Perry on Consim (http://talk.consimworld.com/WebX?14 at 542.V8OydaH8pTI.64@.ee6b46b/32037): ----------8<---------------------------------------------------------- Hakkaa P??lle! Playtesting We are ready to start outside playtesting for the Hakkaa P??lle! rules and scenarios. Yes, the mighty Finnish module is ready for outside playtesting, and we need your help. Lars Thuring and Tuomo Lukkari have done a great job of getting the module to this point, but they and their hardy groups cannot do _all_ the playtesting. (Nor have they. Thanks to Jim Stahler, Steve Anderson, et al for helping out on this side of the Atlantic.) There is no reason to change horses in midstream, however, so Lars and Tuomo will continue to coordinate playtesting. In addition to normal playtesting, this involves learning and applying the new rules for for new Finnish squad types, Russian early-war doctrine, infantry-pulled sledges, and motorized sleighs and commenting on their understandability, usefulness, and ease of play. I don?t want to scare anyone off, but this will require a bit of dedication, not to mention access to (semi)regular playing partners. If you are interested, or if you have questions, please drop me a line at perrycocke at comcast.net. I will hook you up with Lars and Tuomo. Someone please post this on the forums. Thanks. ----------8<---------------------------------------------------------- Yes! :-) -- "2b|!2b?" (Hamlet) ASL - http://www.thuring.com/asl Quotes - http://www.thuring.com/life/quotes.html From geb3 at inter.net Sun Oct 21 08:23:13 2007 From: geb3 at inter.net (George Bates) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:23:13 +0900 Subject: [Aslml] Key's Mail Madness Message-ID: <000501c813f6$4f3d0220$030ba8c0@RustyNail> Hey, fellas, anybody know if Alex has been able to sort out his e-mail issues yet? Have not heard from him since before ASLOK. Cheers! George Bates Yokohama, Japan Gaming by the Bay 1st Sunday of each month. Swim on over! We'll leave the light on for you. Now in progress: J59 Friday The 13th, Soviet vs. Lee Fehlberg From qitahcat at verizon.net Sun Oct 21 14:36:29 2007 From: qitahcat at verizon.net (Ivan Lindstrom) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:36:29 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] =?iso-8859-1?q?Hakkaa_P=E4=E4lle!_Playtesting?= In-Reply-To: <4718E9A6.3060802@thuring.com> References: <4717C7DF.5070800@yahoo.se> <471881A3.9000907@thuring.com> <635ae5ca0710190411sc3f0b0cw4317aba549990cdb@mail.gmail.com> <4718E9A6.3060802@thuring.com> Message-ID: <005401c8142a$719f8200$0201a8c0@ivanhomepc> If you need help I'll gladly put my hat into the ring Ivan Lindstrom Qitahcat at verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net [mailto:aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net] On Behalf Of lars thuring Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 1:30 PM To: ASL ML Subject: [Aslml] Hakkaa P??lle! Playtesting Posted by Perry on Consim (http://talk.consimworld.com/WebX?14 at 542.V8OydaH8pTI.64@.ee6b46b/32037): ----------8<---------------------------------------------------------- Hakkaa P??lle! Playtesting We are ready to start outside playtesting for the Hakkaa P??lle! rules and scenarios. Yes, the mighty Finnish module is ready for outside playtesting, and we need your help. Lars Thuring and Tuomo Lukkari have done a great job of getting the module to this point, but they and their hardy groups cannot do _all_ the playtesting. (Nor have they. Thanks to Jim Stahler, Steve Anderson, et al for helping out on this side of the Atlantic.) There is no reason to change horses in midstream, however, so Lars and Tuomo will continue to coordinate playtesting. In addition to normal playtesting, this involves learning and applying the new rules for for new Finnish squad types, Russian early-war doctrine, infantry-pulled sledges, and motorized sleighs and commenting on their understandability, usefulness, and ease of play. I don?t want to scare anyone off, but this will require a bit of dedication, not to mention access to (semi)regular playing partners. If you are interested, or if you have questions, please drop me a line at perrycocke at comcast.net. I will hook you up with Lars and Tuomo. Someone please post this on the forums. Thanks. ----------8<---------------------------------------------------------- Yes! :-) -- "2b|!2b?" (Hamlet) ASL - http://www.thuring.com/asl Quotes - http://www.thuring.com/life/quotes.html _______________________________________________ Aslml mailing list Aslml at lists.aslml.net http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net From geb3 at inter.net Tue Oct 23 07:51:14 2007 From: geb3 at inter.net (George Bates) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:51:14 +0900 Subject: [Aslml] follow-up RE: Key's Mail Madness Message-ID: <001601c81584$2fb274f0$030ba8c0@RustyNail> Anyone? Bueller? - G -----Original Message----- From: George Bates [mailto:geb3 at inter.net] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 12:23 AM To: aslml-aslml.net at lists.aslml.net Subject: Key's Mail Madness Hey, fellas, anybody know if Alex has been able to sort out his e-mail issues yet? Have not heard from him since before ASLOK. Cheers! George Bates Yokohama, Japan Gaming by the Bay 1st Sunday of each month. Swim on over! We'll leave the light on for you. Now in progress: J59 Friday The 13th, Soviet vs. Lee Fehlberg From chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com Tue Oct 23 09:57:46 2007 From: chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com (Chuck T) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:57:46 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] follow-up RE: Key's Mail Madness In-Reply-To: <001601c81584$2fb274f0$030ba8c0@RustyNail> References: <001601c81584$2fb274f0$030ba8c0@RustyNail> Message-ID: <332a4d030710230957n3cc9c489gbda81550833cff8d@mail.gmail.com> per his post on ASLML hobbies at revealed.net" to aslml show details Oct 14 My apologies in advance for the waste of bandwidth. On 8 October, my ISP experienced a catastrophic hit on their email system. This isn't the first time but it is the longest it's been down. Despite repeated assurances of a quick fix, there's only been a temporary, back door solution and don't know how long that will hold; unfortunately, I can't match this solution up with the rest of my databases. There's about 120 emails in the queue waiting to be sent. If the problem isn't fixed by tomorrow, I'll start using the gmail address in the cc line. If someone can post this onto the other ASL forums, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks. Alex Key's Games & Hobbies On 10/23/07, George Bates wrote: > Anyone? Bueller? > > - G > > > -----Original Message----- > From: George Bates [mailto:geb3 at inter.net] > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 12:23 AM > To: aslml-aslml.net at lists.aslml.net > Subject: Key's Mail Madness > > > Hey, fellas, anybody know if Alex has been able to sort out his e-mail > issues yet? Have not heard from him since before ASLOK. Cheers! > > George Bates > Yokohama, Japan > Gaming by the Bay 1st Sunday of each month. > Swim on over! We'll leave the light on for you. > > Now in progress: > J59 Friday The 13th, Soviet vs. Lee Fehlberg > > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > -- Chuck T chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com From asl at ths85.net Tue Oct 23 16:30:27 2007 From: asl at ths85.net (Zeke Crater) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:30:27 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] follow-up RE: Key's Mail Madness In-Reply-To: <001601c81584$2fb274f0$030ba8c0@RustyNail> References: <001601c81584$2fb274f0$030ba8c0@RustyNail> Message-ID: <471E8413.1000201@ths85.net> I know Alex is still struggling to recover from his ISP's email meltdown. I did get an email from Alex yesterday from his hobbies at revealed.net address and I received my most recent order from him a few weeks ago. As someone else who's ISP is about to shaft him email-wise (thanks for nothing, Embarq), I can only commiserate with Alex. Zeke George Bates wrote: > Anyone? Bueller? > > - G > > > -----Original Message----- > From: George Bates [mailto:geb3 at inter.net] > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 12:23 AM > To: aslml-aslml.net at lists.aslml.net > Subject: Key's Mail Madness > > > Hey, fellas, anybody know if Alex has been able to sort out his e-mail > issues yet? Have not heard from him since before ASLOK. Cheers! > > George Bates > Yokohama, Japan > Gaming by the Bay 1st Sunday of each month. > Swim on over! We'll leave the light on for you. > > Now in progress: > J59 Friday The 13th, Soviet vs. Lee Fehlberg > > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > From geb3 at inter.net Tue Oct 23 17:20:54 2007 From: geb3 at inter.net (George Bates) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:20:54 +0900 Subject: [Aslml] RE3: follow-up RE: Key's Mail Madness In-Reply-To: <471E8413.1000201@ths85.net> Message-ID: <001c01c815d3$c237d1e0$030ba8c0@RustyNail> Zeke & List, Alex mentioned a gmail account in his ASLML announcement, but I didn't see that address in the CC: line, and those who answered me offline do not have it, either. If anyone can provide that address, please drop me a note. Cheers! - G -----Original Message----- From: Zeke Crater [mailto:asl at ths85.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:30 AM To: aslml at lists.aslml.net Cc: geb3 at inter.net Subject: Re: [Aslml] follow-up RE: Key's Mail Madness I know Alex is still struggling to recover from his ISP's email meltdown. I did get an email from Alex yesterday from his hobbies at revealed.net address and I received my most recent order from him a few weeks ago. As someone else who's ISP is about to shaft him email-wise (thanks for nothing, Embarq), I can only commiserate with Alex. Zeke George Bates wrote: > Anyone? Bueller? > > - G > > > -----Original Message----- > From: George Bates [mailto:geb3 at inter.net] > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 12:23 AM > To: aslml-aslml.net at lists.aslml.net > Subject: Key's Mail Madness > > > Hey, fellas, anybody know if Alex has been able to sort out his e-mail > issues yet? Have not heard from him since before ASLOK. Cheers! > > George Bates > Yokohama, Japan > Gaming by the Bay 1st Sunday of each month. > Swim on over! We'll leave the light on for you. > > Now in progress: > J59 Friday The 13th, Soviet vs. Lee Fehlberg > > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > From bignoodle at earthlink.net Thu Oct 25 16:42:56 2007 From: bignoodle at earthlink.net (donald holland) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:42:56 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] Rooftop Q Message-ID: <380-2200710425234256612@earthlink.net> Playing ABTF CG, There is a German squad on a factory rooftop (DD20). If a British squad is squatting in DD21 level 0 (The rooftop access point) is the German squad until upper level encirclement? Don "Big Noodle" Holland bignoodle at earthlink.net VASL V5 ROCKS!!!