From jpcole at westnet.com.au Sun Aug 5 02:41:14 2007 From: jpcole at westnet.com.au (Jon Cole) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 17:41:14 +0800 Subject: [Aslml] Overrun queestion Message-ID: <006901c7d744$c4da7e70$6401a8c0@401b29ad67014ec> Hi May an unarmed, unarmored vehicle, with no inherent crew or PRC, such as your run of the mill truck conduct an Overrun It doesn't seem right but it seems that by D7.11 that an unarmored vehicle has a OVR Base FP of 1FP The only argument I can find against an OVR is a form of Bounding First Fire, a vehicle that conducts an OVR is marked with a Bounding Fire counter, and I am not sure if a Fire counter is placed on something that has nothing to fire :-) If they are allowed, I'll have to reconsider my use of trucks. A 1FP OVR attack inopen ground (-1 DRM) is not to be sneezed at. Cheers Jon From cardboard.killer at verizon.net Sun Aug 5 05:08:24 2007 From: cardboard.killer at verizon.net (Brian W) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 08:08:24 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] Overrun queestion In-Reply-To: <006901c7d744$c4da7e70$6401a8c0@401b29ad67014ec> References: <006901c7d744$c4da7e70$6401a8c0@401b29ad67014ec> Message-ID: <000001c7d759$53379040$f9a6b0c0$@killer@verizon.net> >If they are allowed, I'll have to reconsider my use of trucks. >A 1FP OVR attack in open ground (-1 DRM) is not to be sneezed at. Yes; about 6,000 pedestrians killed each year by unarmed/armored vehicles without PRC each year in the USA. And the inherent drivers weren't even trying to do it on purpose. From aslwynn at rogers.com Mon Aug 6 09:14:58 2007 From: aslwynn at rogers.com (Wynn) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 12:14:58 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] A 9.74 and Onslaught to Orsha CG 9.6133 - FT/DC Retention References: <20050406152041.67936.qmail@web52610.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <009101c7d844$ef86c0b0$fe80684a@D56LBC31> Listerz; What does OTO 9.6133 mean re FTs/DCs lost due to a KIA result and A9.74 Random SW destruction after an IFT shot? Do they come back or are they gone forever? Wynn "Wants to Light More Candles" Polnicky From chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 08:21:04 2007 From: chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com (Chuck T) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 11:21:04 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] quick answer on creeping barrages needed Message-ID: <332a4d030708070821w3c8f9865v976b463272874e74@mail.gmail.com> do you roll for accuracy on a creeping barrage? same mods as a pre-reg hex if so? -- Chuck T chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com From fred at sdccu.net Tue Aug 7 10:32:25 2007 From: fred at sdccu.net (Fred) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 10:32:25 -0700 Subject: [Aslml] quick answer on creeping barrages needed In-Reply-To: <332a4d030708070821w3c8f9865v976b463272874e74@mail.gmail.com> References: <332a4d030708070821w3c8f9865v976b463272874e74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46B8ACA9.3000007@sdccu.net> Chuck, Yes, you roll for accuracy with the regular pre-reg numbers. And if it misses you also move the end hex using the same D&D numbers. Fred Chuck T wrote: > do you roll for accuracy on a creeping barrage? same mods as a > pre-reg hex if so? > From chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 11:01:00 2007 From: chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com (Chuck T) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 14:01:00 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] quick answer on creeping barrages needed In-Reply-To: <46B8ACA9.3000007@sdccu.net> References: <332a4d030708070821w3c8f9865v976b463272874e74@mail.gmail.com> <46B8ACA9.3000007@sdccu.net> Message-ID: <332a4d030708071101u630cb7f3te96c0366983c9cc@mail.gmail.com> D&D numbers........does that mean I roll 3x d20 and 2x d36 to come up with the hit points I deal to the slavering elven orcs? :) On 8/7/07, Fred wrote: > > Chuck, > > Yes, you roll for accuracy with the regular pre-reg numbers. And if > it misses you also move the end hex using the same D&D numbers. > > Fred > > Chuck T wrote: > > do you roll for accuracy on a creeping barrage? same mods as a > > pre-reg hex if so? > > > -- Chuck T chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com From chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 11:02:55 2007 From: chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com (Chuck T) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 14:02:55 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] quick answer on creeping barrages needed In-Reply-To: <46B8ACA9.3000007@sdccu.net> References: <332a4d030708070821w3c8f9865v976b463272874e74@mail.gmail.com> <46B8ACA9.3000007@sdccu.net> Message-ID: <332a4d030708071102m1ee166f0o9de911c772223601@mail.gmail.com> seriously though - thanks for the speedy reply! On 8/7/07, Fred wrote: > > Chuck, > > Yes, you roll for accuracy with the regular pre-reg numbers. And if > it misses you also move the end hex using the same D&D numbers. > > Fred > > Chuck T wrote: > > do you roll for accuracy on a creeping barrage? same mods as a > > pre-reg hex if so? > > > -- Chuck T chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com From bo_siemsen at city.dk Tue Aug 7 14:30:59 2007 From: bo_siemsen at city.dk (Bo Siemsen) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 23:30:59 +0200 Subject: [Aslml] Rule question - Winter Camouflage In-Reply-To: <332a4d030708070821w3c8f9865v976b463272874e74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: An interesting situation developed in my game today. We're playing a game with ground snow in effect. My squad is wearing winter camouflage. My squad is in a woods hex. My opponent fires his Mortar at me and rolls a 7. Now, the question is does Winter Camouflage mean that this is a miss ? E 3.712 WINTER CAMOUFLAGE In any type of snow, any infantry unit specified as having winter camouflage receives a +1 LV hindrance when fired upon beyond 8 hexes unless it already qualifies for a POSITIVE TEM other than smoke. The range is over 8 hexes. It is a mortar shooting at me. That means the TEM is -1 if he scores a hit. So, winter camouflage applies here and the shot was a miss ? In strict accordance with the wording of the rules I'd say yes I do get winter camouflage. Not sure it makes a lot of sense though. Bo Siemsen of Copenhagen From bo_siemsen at city.dk Tue Aug 7 14:32:42 2007 From: bo_siemsen at city.dk (Bo Siemsen) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 23:32:42 +0200 Subject: [Aslml] Question for Finns on the list In-Reply-To: <332a4d030708070821w3c8f9865v976b463272874e74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Could one of you please send me the finnish words for the following words : Bell Long Creek No need to reply to the whole list Thanks Bo Siemsen of Copenhagen From chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 14:41:12 2007 From: chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com (Chuck T) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 17:41:12 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] Rule question - Winter Camouflage In-Reply-To: References: <332a4d030708070821w3c8f9865v976b463272874e74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <332a4d030708071441s4fc007f2w81eadfbc2c29072@mail.gmail.com> My first instinct is that no you don't get this since it's on the ATT for MTR attacks. But I think LV mods apply to ATT shots so depending on the range to you when the shot was made, you may be OK. -CT On 8/7/07, Bo Siemsen wrote: > > An interesting situation developed in my game today. We're playing a game > with ground snow in effect. My squad is wearing winter camouflage. My squad > is in a woods hex. My opponent fires his Mortar at me and rolls a 7. Now, > the question is does Winter Camouflage mean that this is a miss ? > > > E 3.712 WINTER CAMOUFLAGE > In any type of snow, any infantry unit specified as having winter camouflage > receives a +1 LV hindrance when fired upon beyond 8 hexes unless it already > qualifies for a POSITIVE TEM other than smoke. > > The range is over 8 hexes. > > It is a mortar shooting at me. That means the TEM is -1 if he scores a hit. > So, winter camouflage applies here and the shot was a miss ? In strict > accordance with the wording of the rules I'd say yes I do get winter > camouflage. Not sure it makes a lot of sense though. > > > > Bo Siemsen of Copenhagen > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > -- Chuck T chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com From swfancher at mindspring.com Tue Aug 7 18:22:27 2007 From: swfancher at mindspring.com (Seth W Fancher) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 21:22:27 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] A 9.74 and Onslaught to Orsha CG 9.6133 - FT/DC Retention In-Reply-To: <009101c7d844$ef86c0b0$fe80684a@D56LBC31> References: <20050406152041.67936.qmail@web52610.mail.yahoo.com> <009101c7d844$ef86c0b0$fe80684a@D56LBC31> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20070807212043.048513b0@pop.mindspring.com> Hi Wynn, I haven't seen a response to this, so I'll have a go.... I believe that the FT/DC would be retained as they were removed by an Original DR <=10 more than likely. HTH. Be well. Seth At 12:14 PM 8/6/2007, Wynn wrote: >Listerz; > >What does OTO 9.6133 mean re FTs/DCs lost due to a KIA result and A9.74 >Random SW destruction after an IFT shot? Do they come back or are they gone >forever? > >Wynn "Wants to Light More Candles" Polnicky > >_______________________________________________ >Aslml mailing list >Aslml at lists.aslml.net >http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net >To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net From robert_maglica at yahoo.com Wed Aug 8 09:22:16 2007 From: robert_maglica at yahoo.com (Robert Maglica) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 18:22:16 +0200 Subject: [Aslml] Question for Finns on the list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001601c7d9d8$494bb490$6300a8c0@obelix> You met a Finnish girl and are trying to have an intelligent conversation? ;) /Robert Maglica -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr?n: aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net [mailto:aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net] F?r Bo Siemsen Skickat: den 7 augusti 2007 23:33 Till: Aslml at Lists. Aslml. Net ?mne: [Aslml] Question for Finns on the list Could one of you please send me the finnish words for the following words : Bell Long Creek No need to reply to the whole list Thanks Bo Siemsen of Copenhagen _______________________________________________ Aslml mailing list Aslml at lists.aslml.net http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net From gd891 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 8 09:27:56 2007 From: gd891 at hotmail.com (g) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 11:27:56 -0500 Subject: [Aslml] Question for Finns on the list In-Reply-To: <001601c7d9d8$494bb490$6300a8c0@obelix> References: <001601c7d9d8$494bb490$6300a8c0@obelix> Message-ID: >>Could one of you please send me the finnish words for the following words : >>Bell >>Long >>Creek >You met a Finnish girl and are trying to have an intelligent conversation? >;) In that context, I can understand "Long" but I don't get "Bell" and "Creek"...... Greg Man its boring around here. From Michael.Hammond at Aspect.com Wed Aug 8 09:49:32 2007 From: Michael.Hammond at Aspect.com (Hammond, Michael) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:49:32 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] Question for Finns on the list In-Reply-To: <000301c7d9d9$13fbace0$39ea12a7@accounts.root.corp> Message-ID: <0C6849C79895D9489454E7E3891E1B0F03D539F2@ASP1EXCH1.aspect.com> Let's go down to the Creek and I'll ring your Bell? For a long Time? ;) Mike -----Original Message----- From: aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net [mailto:aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net] On Behalf Of g Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 11:28 AM To: 'Robert Maglica'; bo_siemsen at city.dk; 'Aslml at Lists. Aslml. Net' Subject: Re: [Aslml] Question for Finns on the list >>Could one of you please send me the finnish words for the following >>words : >>Bell >>Long >>Creek >You met a Finnish girl and are trying to have an intelligent conversation? >;) In that context, I can understand "Long" but I don't get "Bell" and "Creek"...... Greg Man its boring around here. _______________________________________________ Aslml mailing list Aslml at lists.aslml.net http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net From fred at sdccu.net Wed Aug 8 09:57:23 2007 From: fred at sdccu.net (Fred) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 09:57:23 -0700 Subject: [Aslml] A 9.74 and Onslaught to Orsha CG 9.6133 - FT/DC Retention In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20070807212043.048513b0@pop.mindspring.com> References: <20050406152041.67936.qmail@web52610.mail.yahoo.com> <009101c7d844$ef86c0b0$fe80684a@D56LBC31> <6.2.0.14.2.20070807212043.048513b0@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: <46B9F5F3.7050909@sdccu.net> I would say that they are not retained since intent of the rule is the same as O11.6134 and with the RB rule they aren't retained. Fred Seth W Fancher wrote: > Hi Wynn, > > I haven't seen a response to this, so I'll have a go.... > > I believe that the FT/DC would be retained as they were removed by an > Original DR <=10 more than likely. > > HTH. Be well. > Seth > > > > At 12:14 PM 8/6/2007, Wynn wrote: >> Listerz; >> >> What does OTO 9.6133 mean re FTs/DCs lost due to a KIA result and A9.74 >> Random SW destruction after an IFT shot? Do they come back or are they gone >> forever? >> >> Wynn "Wants to Light More Candles" Polnicky >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aslml mailing list >> Aslml at lists.aslml.net >> http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net >> To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > > From robert_maglica at yahoo.com Wed Aug 8 10:05:22 2007 From: robert_maglica at yahoo.com (Robert Maglica) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 19:05:22 +0200 Subject: [Aslml] Question for Finns on the list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001e01c7d9de$4ecb1e50$6300a8c0@obelix> Obviously you haven't met Bo. :) /Robert -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr?n: g [mailto:gd891 at hotmail.com] Skickat: den 8 augusti 2007 18:28 Till: 'Robert Maglica'; bo_siemsen at city.dk; 'Aslml at Lists. Aslml. Net' ?mne: RE: [Aslml] Question for Finns on the list >>Could one of you please send me the finnish words for the following words : >>Bell >>Long >>Creek >You met a Finnish girl and are trying to have an intelligent conversation? >;) In that context, I can understand "Long" but I don't get "Bell" and "Creek"...... Greg Man its boring around here. From bo_siemsen at city.dk Wed Aug 8 10:40:29 2007 From: bo_siemsen at city.dk (Bo Siemsen) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 19:40:29 +0200 Subject: [Aslml] Question for Finns on the list In-Reply-To: <001e01c7d9de$4ecb1e50$6300a8c0@obelix> Message-ID: Intelligent conversation ? ... ME ... HAH ... That's a good one. Actually it just has to do with naming some stuff on a new historical map that has been set in the works by danish authors and ASL'ers Torben Jorgensen and Peter Lassen. They want to name a couple of creeks that is on the map ... one is kinda' shaped like a bell and the other is quite long ... and since it's set in the vicinity of Leningrad (around Narva to be exact) they want to give them finnish names. I've started playtesting against Michael Hastrup-Leth and it is looking very interesting so far. It is still early in the play-testing fase and I know that they wouldn't mind one more playtesting group to give feedback. If this has peeked anyone's interest feel free to drop me a note and I'll see what I can do. Best Regards Bo Siemsen -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Robert Maglica [mailto:robert_maglica at yahoo.com] Sendt: 8. august 2007 19:05 Til: 'g'; bo_siemsen at city.dk; 'Aslml at Lists. Aslml. Net' Emne: SV: [Aslml] Question for Finns on the list Obviously you haven't met Bo. :) /Robert -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr?n: g [mailto:gd891 at hotmail.com] Skickat: den 8 augusti 2007 18:28 Till: 'Robert Maglica'; bo_siemsen at city.dk; 'Aslml at Lists. Aslml. Net' ?mne: RE: [Aslml] Question for Finns on the list >>Could one of you please send me the finnish words for the following words : >>Bell >>Long >>Creek >You met a Finnish girl and are trying to have an intelligent conversation? >;) In that context, I can understand "Long" but I don't get "Bell" and "Creek"...... Greg Man its boring around here. From swfancher at mindspring.com Wed Aug 8 17:17:53 2007 From: swfancher at mindspring.com (Seth W Fancher) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:17:53 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] A 9.74 and Onslaught to Orsha CG 9.6133 - FT/DC Retention In-Reply-To: <46B9F5F3.7050909@sdccu.net> References: <20050406152041.67936.qmail@web52610.mail.yahoo.com> <009101c7d844$ef86c0b0$fe80684a@D56LBC31> <6.2.0.14.2.20070807212043.048513b0@pop.mindspring.com> <46B9F5F3.7050909@sdccu.net> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20070808200156.0210ad60@pop.mindspring.com> While I agree that the language is pretty much identical (there is some extra stuff in Chapter O), I think a plain English reading of O11.6134 would also lead one to conclude that FT eliminated by Random SW destruction would be retained. There is a Q&A that clarifies that _captured_ FT/DC that are subsequently eliminated are not retained. But I have not seen a Q&A that says that a FT destroyed by an IFT/OBA attack would not be retained in RB. What am I missing? The following is from Scott Romanowski's version 22: O11.6134 (a) Are FT/?DC retained if they are deliberately eliminated by the enemy? (b) Are FT/?DC retained if they are captured by the enemy, but eliminated in step O11.6135. (captured weapon dr)? (c) Are FT/?DC retained if they are captured by the enemy and then eliminated by a effects DR conducted by the enemy? A. No to all. [Compil3] Even if there were, I think it is highly problematic to apply Q&A across different modules. I don't think it reasonable that someone playing OtO should be required be familiar with Chapter O, and all the applicable Q&A. We can speculate all we want about the designer's intent...but it is just that - speculation. Absent an actual rule, or clarification/Q&A related to this specific rule, I don't see how you can compel someone to play differently. I agree that this "feels" wrong. But...there are many things in the game that "feel" wrong. And I could easily see the designer intending that these weapons be retained - the KIA IFT result presumably took out an MMC as well. FT/DC are few and far between, and if they disappear this way the German (who already has a very tough nut to crack) could easily have no chance after the first or second CG date. Be well. Seth At 12:57 PM 8/8/2007, Fred wrote: >I would say that they are not retained since intent of the rule is the >same as O11.6134 and with the RB rule they aren't retained. > >Fred > >Seth W Fancher wrote: >>Hi Wynn, >>I haven't seen a response to this, so I'll have a go.... >>I believe that the FT/DC would be retained as they were removed by an >>Original DR <=10 more than likely. >>HTH. Be well. >>Seth >> >>At 12:14 PM 8/6/2007, Wynn wrote: >>>Listerz; >>> >>>What does OTO 9.6133 mean re FTs/DCs lost due to a KIA result and A9.74 >>>Random SW destruction after an IFT shot? Do they come back or are they gone >>>forever? >>> >>>Wynn "Wants to Light More Candles" Polnicky >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Aslml mailing list >>>Aslml at lists.aslml.net >>>http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net >>>To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Aslml mailing list >>Aslml at lists.aslml.net >>http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net >>To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net From klas_malmstrom at yahoo.se Thu Aug 9 02:24:45 2007 From: klas_malmstrom at yahoo.se (=?iso-8859-1?q?Klas=20Malmstr=F6m?=) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 11:24:45 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Aslml] ASK Kick Off 2007 - pictures Message-ID: <220583.64128.qm@web27910.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> It has been some time since it happend - but now there are some pictures from our annual ASL Kick Off gathering in Gothenburg (2nd week in January) on my webpage http://www.klasm.com (all captions are in Swedish though). Direct-link: http://www.klasm.com/ASL/AAR/Kick_Off_2007/ASL%20Kick%20Off%202007.html Regards, Klas ------------------------------------------------------- Klas Malmstrom Linkoping, Sweden Email: klas_malmstrom at yahoo.se ------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Fly(g) fr?n regnet - s?k efter resor hos Yahoo! Shopping. J?mf?r pris p? flygbiljetter och hotellrum h?r: http://shopping.yahoo.se/c-169901-resor-biljetter.html?partnerId=96914052 From klas_malmstrom at yahoo.se Thu Aug 9 14:44:05 2007 From: klas_malmstrom at yahoo.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Klas_Malmstr=F6m?=) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 23:44:05 +0200 Subject: [Aslml] ASL Scandinavian Open 2007 - 10th Anniversary - pictures Message-ID: <46BB8AA5.4020901@yahoo.se> Hi, In late February this year it was the 10th Anniversary of ASL Scandinavian Open in Copenhagen. On my webpage http://www.klasm.com/ are som picures I took. Direct-link: http://www.klasm.com/ASL/AAR/ASO_2007/ASL%20Scandinavian%20Open%202007.html Regards, Klas Malmstrom From swfancher at mindspring.com Thu Aug 9 15:35:41 2007 From: swfancher at mindspring.com (Seth W Fancher) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:35:41 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] Counters in Hedgerow Hell? Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20070809183410.02107420@pop.mindspring.com> A quick question for those who have such an excellent memory (or record!) of this sort of thing.... The "contents" on the back of the HH box says that 117 1/2' cardboard counters are included. The text above says that no counters are included. Which is correct? Many thanks!!! Be well. Seth From hofors at lysator.liu.se Thu Aug 9 15:36:23 2007 From: hofors at lysator.liu.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mattias_R=F6nnblom?=) Date: 10 Aug 2007 00:36:23 +0200 Subject: [Aslml] Counters in Hedgerow Hell? In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20070809183410.02107420@pop.mindspring.com> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20070809183410.02107420@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: <87wsw49vyw.fsf@isengard.friendlyfire.se> HH does come with some kind of information counters, if I recall correctly. Seth W Fancher writes: > A quick question for those who have such an excellent memory (or record!) > of this sort of thing.... > > The "contents" on the back of the HH box says that 117 1/2' cardboard > counters are included. The text above says that no counters are > included. Which is correct? > > Many thanks!!! Be well. > Seth > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net From arlenvanek at hotmail.com Thu Aug 9 16:55:37 2007 From: arlenvanek at hotmail.com (Arlen Vanek) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 18:55:37 -0500 Subject: [Aslml] Counters in Hedgerow Hell? References: <6.2.0.14.2.20070809183410.02107420@pop.mindspring.com> <87wsw49vyw.fsf@isengard.friendlyfire.se> Message-ID: the only counters that were in hedgerow hell were information counters for use with the afv cards. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mattias R?nnblom" To: "Seth W Fancher" Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [Aslml] Counters in Hedgerow Hell? > HH does come with some kind of information counters, if I recall > correctly. > > Seth W Fancher writes: > >> A quick question for those who have such an excellent memory (or record!) >> of this sort of thing.... >> >> The "contents" on the back of the HH box says that 117 1/2' cardboard >> counters are included. The text above says that no counters are >> included. Which is correct? >> >> Many thanks!!! Be well. >> Seth >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aslml mailing list >> Aslml at lists.aslml.net >> http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net >> To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > From swfancher at mindspring.com Thu Aug 9 18:59:41 2007 From: swfancher at mindspring.com (Seth W Fancher) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:59:41 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] Counters in Hedgerow Hell? In-Reply-To: <200708092012.1iji7a25q3Nl3oJ0@wanamaker.mail.atl.earthlink .net> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20070809183410.02107420@pop.mindspring.com> <87wsw49vyw.fsf@isengard.friendlyfire.se> <200708092012.1iji7a25q3Nl3oJ0@wanamaker.mail.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20070809215739.04858470@pop.mindspring.com> Found a picture of the sheet...I don't see any building control. Looks like "G" and "Sz" counters for the AFV cards, as well as the handy "No HEAT" and "No APCR" type counters. Thanks to all who answered! Be well. Seth At 08:08 PM 8/9/2007, ASL wrote: >No, there were Building Control at least as well. > >At 06:55 PM 09/08/2007, Arlen Vanek wrote: >>the only counters that were in hedgerow hell were information counters for >>use with the afv cards. >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Mattias R?nnblom" >>To: "Seth W Fancher" >>Cc: >>Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 5:36 PM >>Subject: Re: [Aslml] Counters in Hedgerow Hell? >> >> >> > HH does come with some kind of information counters, if I recall >> > correctly. >> > >> > Seth W Fancher writes: >> > >> >> A quick question for those who have such an excellent memory (or record!) >> >> of this sort of thing.... >> >> >> >> The "contents" on the back of the HH box says that 117 1/2' cardboard >> >> counters are included. The text above says that no counters are >> >> included. Which is correct? >> >> >> >> Many thanks!!! Be well. >> >> Seth >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Aslml mailing list >> >> Aslml at lists.aslml.net >> >> http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net >> >> To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Aslml mailing list >> > Aslml at lists.aslml.net >> > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net >> > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net >> > >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Aslml mailing list >>Aslml at lists.aslml.net >>http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net >>To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > >craig cooper > >http://howardhowardfine.com/asl/index.html > From damavs at alltel.net Thu Aug 9 19:29:16 2007 From: damavs at alltel.net (Bret & Julie Hildebran) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:29:16 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] Counters in Hedgerow Hell? In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20070809215739.04858470@pop.mindspring.com> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20070809183410.02107420@pop.mindspring.com> <87wsw49vyw.fsf@isengard.friendlyfire.se> <200708092012.1iji7a25q3Nl3oJ0@wanamaker.mail.atl.earthlink.net> <6.2.0.14.2.20070809215739.04858470@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20070810022512.SZHK7089.ispmxaamta08-gx.windstream.net@Sparky.alltel.net> Seth W Fancher wrote: >Found a picture of the sheet...I don't see any building control. Looks >like "G" and "Sz" counters for the AFV cards, as well as the handy "No >HEAT" and "No APCR" type counters. The building and hex control are on the opposite sides of "Removed" and "Sz" type counters... Bret Hildebran damavs at alltel.net www.aslok.org From arlenvanek at hotmail.com Thu Aug 9 23:49:47 2007 From: arlenvanek at hotmail.com (Arlen Vanek) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:49:47 -0500 Subject: [Aslml] Counters in Hedgerow Hell? References: <6.2.0.14.2.20070809183410.02107420@pop.mindspring.com> <87wsw49vyw.fsf@isengard.friendlyfire.se> <200708092012.1iji7a25q3Nl3oJ0@wanamaker.mail.atl.earthlink.net> <6.2.0.14.2.20070809215739.04858470@pop.mindspring.com> <20070810022512.SZHK7089.ispmxaamta08-gx.windstream.net@Sparky.alltel.net> Message-ID: exactly arlen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bret & Julie Hildebran" To: "Seth W Fancher" ; "ASL" ; "Arlen Vanek" ; "Mattias R?nnblom" Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [Aslml] Counters in Hedgerow Hell? > Seth W Fancher wrote: >>Found a picture of the sheet...I don't see any building control. Looks >>like "G" and "Sz" counters for the AFV cards, as well as the handy "No >>HEAT" and "No APCR" type counters. > > The building and hex control are on the opposite sides of "Removed" and > "Sz" type counters... > > Bret Hildebran > damavs at alltel.net > www.aslok.org > > From payne-asl2 at nc.rr.com Fri Aug 10 21:15:34 2007 From: payne-asl2 at nc.rr.com (Chuck Payne) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 04:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Aslml] Factory Walls and OT-34's Message-ID: Hi All, A somewhat unusual situation or two has come up in Red Barricades. I am posting to make sure we did this correctly. The German breached a factory wall. An OT-34 is on the other side of the breach. The first question is when the wall is breached, can either side claim WA before the advance phase? (I don't think either side can.) The German also has a PzKw IV F2 in the hex with the new breach. If WA cannot be immediately claimed, then the OT-34 gets HD vs. any shot from the PzKw IV that AFPh. Secondly, I don't think that the OT-34 can fire its FT through the breach unless the German claims WA. D4.223 HD Firer says: "Non-MA bow -mounted weapons cannot be used against a target if the firing vehicle is HD to that target's position." If the Germans are stupid (like I was) and claim WA, the OT-34 could torch them through the breach. However, had the Germans not taken WA, the bow- mounted FT could not flame them regardless of whether or not the Russian claims wall advantage. (Assume hypothetically all the infantry failed their PAATCs and did not take the OT-34 out in CC.) This seems a little strange that the German can sit there relatively safe next to the OT-34 by refusing WA, but I guess that is the essense of a reverse slope position. Thanks, Chuck From bignoodle at earthlink.net Sat Aug 11 18:11:24 2007 From: bignoodle at earthlink.net (donald holland) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:11:24 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] ASL 114 Message-ID: <380-22007801211124484@earthlink.net> In Cautious Crusaders, Building 49E8 is defined as a factory and a railroad overlay ends against it. Was it intended that this hex is a factory entrance hex? Don "Big Noodle" Holland bignoodle at earthlink.net VASL V5 ROCKS!! From fred at sdccu.net Sat Aug 11 18:32:20 2007 From: fred at sdccu.net (Fred) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:32:20 -0700 Subject: [Aslml] ASL 114 In-Reply-To: <380-22007801211124484@earthlink.net> References: <380-22007801211124484@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <46BE6324.8010104@sdccu.net> I'm not sure, but the factory rules only apply by SSR. Fred donald holland wrote: > In Cautious Crusaders, Building 49E8 is defined as a factory and a railroad > overlay ends against it. > Was it intended that this hex is a factory entrance hex? > > > Don "Big Noodle" Holland > bignoodle at earthlink.net > > VASL V5 ROCKS!! > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > > From swfancher at mindspring.com Sun Aug 12 09:14:16 2007 From: swfancher at mindspring.com (Seth W Fancher) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 12:14:16 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] OT - Empire of the Rising Sun counters Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20070812115152.03732060@pop.mindspring.com> Hello, Sorry for the off-topic post, but I figured if anyone would know it would be among you guys. I purchased a copy of Empire of the Rising Sun and one of the countersheets was missing, replaced with a glossy photocopy of what the countersheet should look like. Does anyone know where I might be able to find counters for this game? Or if this was a common problem? The game was new (shrinkwrapped) so I don't think it was lost/removed. TIA. Be well. Seth From cfago at ix.netcom.com Sun Aug 12 09:22:58 2007 From: cfago at ix.netcom.com (Carl D. Fago) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 12:22:58 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Aslml] OT - Empire of the Rising Sun counters Message-ID: <14989611.1186935778532.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I don't think GMT did that. Sounds like someone re-shrinked it. If you think otherwise, drop GMT a line and see what's up. Carl -----Original Message----- >From: Seth W Fancher >Sent: Aug 12, 2007 12:14 PM >To: aslml-aslml.net at lists.aslml.net, yasl at yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Aslml] OT - Empire of the Rising Sun counters > >Hello, > >Sorry for the off-topic post, but I figured if anyone would know it would >be among you guys. > >I purchased a copy of Empire of the Rising Sun and one of the countersheets >was missing, replaced with a glossy photocopy of what the countersheet >should look like. Does anyone know where I might be able to find counters >for this game? Or if this was a common problem? The game was new >(shrinkwrapped) so I don't think it was lost/removed. > >TIA. Be well. >Seth > >_______________________________________________ >Aslml mailing list >Aslml at lists.aslml.net >http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net >To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net From swfancher at mindspring.com Sun Aug 12 10:12:52 2007 From: swfancher at mindspring.com (Seth W Fancher) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 13:12:52 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] OT - Empire of the Rising Sun counters In-Reply-To: <14989611.1186935778532.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.s a.earthlink.net> References: <14989611.1186935778532.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20070812131046.0373e180@pop.mindspring.com> Hi Carl, Please pardon my ignorance - this is the TAHGC version. Is that the same as the GMT version? I had assumed they were different, but if they are not, contacting GMT would seem to be easy enough. Thanks! At 12:22 PM 8/12/2007, Carl D. Fago wrote: >I don't think GMT did that. Sounds like someone re-shrinked it. If you >think otherwise, drop GMT a line and see what's up. > >Carl > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Seth W Fancher > >Sent: Aug 12, 2007 12:14 PM > >To: aslml-aslml.net at lists.aslml.net, yasl at yahoogroups.com > >Subject: [Aslml] OT - Empire of the Rising Sun counters > > > >Hello, > > > >Sorry for the off-topic post, but I figured if anyone would know it would > >be among you guys. > > > >I purchased a copy of Empire of the Rising Sun and one of the countersheets > >was missing, replaced with a glossy photocopy of what the countersheet > >should look like. Does anyone know where I might be able to find counters > >for this game? Or if this was a common problem? The game was new > >(shrinkwrapped) so I don't think it was lost/removed. > > > >TIA. Be well. > >Seth > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Aslml mailing list > >Aslml at lists.aslml.net > >http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > >To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > > > >_______________________________________________ >Aslml mailing list >Aslml at lists.aslml.net >http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net >To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net From cfago at ix.netcom.com Sun Aug 12 12:15:58 2007 From: cfago at ix.netcom.com (Carl D. Fago) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:15:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Aslml] OT - Empire of the Rising Sun counters Message-ID: <33265673.1186946158940.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Yeah, sorry. Still doesn't sound like it was original shrink. I wonder what happened to all the boxes of ERS that were in the Hasbro warehouse in Springfield, MA in 1999 right after TAHGC was bought? Carl -----Original Message----- >From: Seth W Fancher >Sent: Aug 12, 2007 1:12 PM >To: "Carl D. Fago" , ASLML >Subject: Re: [Aslml] OT - Empire of the Rising Sun counters > >Hi Carl, > >Please pardon my ignorance - this is the TAHGC version. Is that the same >as the GMT version? I had assumed they were different, but if they are >not, contacting GMT would seem to be easy enough. > >Thanks! > > >At 12:22 PM 8/12/2007, Carl D. Fago wrote: >>I don't think GMT did that. Sounds like someone re-shrinked it. If you >>think otherwise, drop GMT a line and see what's up. >> >>Carl >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >From: Seth W Fancher >> >Sent: Aug 12, 2007 12:14 PM >> >To: aslml-aslml.net at lists.aslml.net, yasl at yahoogroups.com >> >Subject: [Aslml] OT - Empire of the Rising Sun counters >> > >> >Hello, >> > >> >Sorry for the off-topic post, but I figured if anyone would know it would >> >be among you guys. >> > >> >I purchased a copy of Empire of the Rising Sun and one of the countersheets >> >was missing, replaced with a glossy photocopy of what the countersheet >> >should look like. Does anyone know where I might be able to find counters >> >for this game? Or if this was a common problem? The game was new >> >(shrinkwrapped) so I don't think it was lost/removed. >> > >> >TIA. Be well. >> >Seth >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Aslml mailing list >> >Aslml at lists.aslml.net >> >http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net >> >To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Aslml mailing list >>Aslml at lists.aslml.net >>http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net >>To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > > From hofors at lysator.liu.se Mon Aug 13 07:53:18 2007 From: hofors at lysator.liu.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mattias_R=F6nnblom?=) Date: 13 Aug 2007 16:53:18 +0200 Subject: [Aslml] HIP and Emplacement Message-ID: <87643jxz8h.fsf@isengard.friendlyfire.se> Hi all. Assume you're playing a scenario which includes Japanese squads (with their "inherent" HIP capability), a Gun and a crew, and has a SSR saying: "No Units may be set up using HIP." The Gun is clearly not allowed to be HIP. But is it Emplaced? Would you have preferred a different SSR wording, or do you think it is clear already? Thanks, Mattias From damavs at alltel.net Mon Aug 13 08:08:15 2007 From: damavs at alltel.net (Bret & Julie Hildebran) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:08:15 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] HIP and Emplacement Message-ID: <20070813150815.XJJH29331.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net> Mattias R?nnblom writes: > Assume you're playing a scenario which includes Japanese squads (with > their "inherent" HIP capability), a Gun and a crew, and has a SSR > saying: > > "No Units may be set up using HIP." > > The Gun is clearly not allowed to be HIP. But is it Emplaced? Would > you have preferred a different SSR wording, or do you think it is > clear already? That wording makes it clear to me that the gun may not HIP, but may be emplaced. The SSR clearly doesn't take away emplacement, it just precludes HIP. And while it's true that (in most situations - I think bamboo is an EXC) to be HIP a gun must be emplaced, the converse is not true that to be emplaced the gun had to employ HIP. Presuming the intent is to allow emplacement, but not HIP, I think the SSR is fine as is. Bret Hildebran damavs at alltel.net www.aslok.org From pfph at thuring.com Mon Aug 13 09:45:32 2007 From: pfph at thuring.com (lars thuring) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:45:32 +0200 Subject: [Aslml] ASK Kick Off 2007 - pictures In-Reply-To: <220583.64128.qm@web27910.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <220583.64128.qm@web27910.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46C08AAC.7060405@thuring.com> Klas Malmstr?m wrote: > It has been some time since it happend - but now there are some pictures from > our annual ASL Kick Off gathering in Gothenburg (2nd week in January) on my > webpage http://www.klasm.com (all captions are in Swedish though). > > Direct-link: > http://www.klasm.com/ASL/AAR/Kick_Off_2007/ASL%20Kick%20Off%202007.html Thanks Klas - nice pictures and from ASO as well! I think the SP scenario played in the first photo from Kick Off is "SP142 To No Avail". best regards, Lars > Regards, > Klas > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Klas Malmstrom > Linkoping, Sweden > Email: klas_malmstrom at yahoo.se > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > __________________________________________________________ > Fly(g) fr?n regnet - s?k efter resor hos Yahoo! Shopping. > J?mf?r pris p? flygbiljetter och hotellrum h?r: > http://shopping.yahoo.se/c-169901-resor-biljetter.html?partnerId=96914052 > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > -- "2b|!2b?" (Hamlet) ASL - http://www.thuring.com/asl Quotes - http://www.thuring.com/life/quotes.html From chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com Mon Aug 13 17:43:18 2007 From: chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com (Chuck T) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:43:18 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] looking for Trezza Message-ID: <332a4d030708131743m39b053d5ua779203eb841adf7@mail.gmail.com> Is he out there? Please contact me off list. -- Chuck T chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com From sixplusone at charter.net Mon Aug 13 19:33:26 2007 From: sixplusone at charter.net (Christopher Fleury) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:33:26 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] looking for Trezza References: <332a4d030708131743m39b053d5ua779203eb841adf7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01d101c7de1b$7ed28e80$068cb018@Bunker> Check your local gambling area or whorehouse... You'll have better luck if both are provided at the same institution... :-) Hi, Gary...!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck T" To: "Aslml at Lists. Aslml. Net" Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 8:43 PM Subject: [Aslml] looking for Trezza > Is he out there? Please contact me off list. > > -- > Chuck T > chuck.tewksbury at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > From jkcarrington at sympatico.ca Fri Aug 17 11:57:35 2007 From: jkcarrington at sympatico.ca (John Carrington) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:57:35 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] Bob Medrow Message-ID: Hi All: Can anyone give me a contact for Bob Medrow? I would like to contact him about his articles he did on ASL probabilities way back when. Is he still gaming? John From mtrodgers99 at gmail.com Fri Aug 17 19:28:18 2007 From: mtrodgers99 at gmail.com (M Rodgers) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:28:18 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] Bob Medrow In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2b8228f00708171928p64d4dd15xfe738a69a11ae4dc@mail.gmail.com> I do not have contact info for Mr. Medrow, but I have heard several years ago that he was totally out of ASL gaming. On 8/17/07, John Carrington wrote: > Hi All: > > Can anyone give me a contact for Bob Medrow? I would like to contact him > about his articles he did on ASL probabilities way back when. Is he still > gaming? > > John > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > -- Michael Rodgers Montreal From rjmosher at hughes.net Sun Aug 19 11:50:47 2007 From: rjmosher at hughes.net (ron mosher) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:50:47 -0500 Subject: [Aslml] Bob Medrow In-Reply-To: <2b8228f00708171928p64d4dd15xfe738a69a11ae4dc@mail.gmail.co m> References: <2b8228f00708171928p64d4dd15xfe738a69a11ae4dc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46C8813700000FBA@n054.sc0.he.tucows.com> (added by postmaster@bouncemessage.net) At 09:28 PM 8/17/2007, M Rodgers wrote: >I do not have contact info for Mr. Medrow, but I have heard several >years ago that he was totally out of ASL gaming. When moved to area, called him in Rolla, Mo(hoping for a near-by ASLer), he is totally out of ASL, and seemed surprised at current level of interest. ron from Lebanon, Mo; turn right at the "Pavement Ends" sign. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.0/961 - Release Date: 8/19/2007 7:27 AM From aslbunker at yahoo.com Mon Aug 20 16:29:14 2007 From: aslbunker at yahoo.com (Vic Provost) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Aslml] Dispatches from the Bunker #25 August Update Message-ID: <938853.94804.qm@web32607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings from the Bunker and hello to all at the Main ASL Mailing List. I just wanted to get our latest update out there with what is going on with our own Amateur ASL Newsletter, Dispatches from the Bunker. We wrapped up the playtest for upcoming Issue #25, due out at the Bunker Bash, Saturday, September 8th. It will be going to the printers this weekend and will ship out to all my subscribers in mid-September. Jim Torkelson has another fine analysis, this one on HOBs OB8 Bloody Bobruisk. Our Tactical Tips guru Carl Nogueira will have more Terrain mayhem in the Fire portion of his Making a Mess Tactical Tips Series. I'll have local tourney news as usual. The Scenarios we have lined up are: Acorns in the Fire: Andy Clarke brings us an ETO combined arms action from New Years Day '45 with a company of GIs supported by 4 Shermans trying to clear a German defense, aided by a couple PzIVJ panzers, from the Board 19 crossroads. The US needs to make maximum use of its SMOKE and Firepower advantage to clean up this pocket of die hard defenders. Looks like this could be on many tourney lists down the line. Housing Crash: Ralph McDonald brings us more Eastern Front nastiness as a company of Ubermen SS 8-3-8 Assault Engineers crashes into a reinforced company of Russian Riflemen on Deluxe Boards b & d. Taking buildings on the other side of the SSR Anti- tank Ditch is the German Mission and the Russian defenders are in no mood to give them up. Tournament sized DASL fun. Send Us More has been renamed Heroic Defense of Wake - This is an incredible and intense PTO slugfest that Tom Morin has exhumed from his filing cabinet. We were going to submit it to the venerable On All Fronts over 12 years ago. It is the Japanese Night Assault on Wake Island 12 days after the initial attempt to take the Island was a complete disaster. This time they are assaulting the beach at night in this PTO mini-monster with 2 companies worth of 4-4-8s attacking a very mixed USA defense which has Marines, ad-hoc Naval personnel and even civilians manning the plethora of machine guns and ordnance available. It starts at night and sees twilight and eventually day as the fight proceeds inland over now 8 very hard fought turns. The current Issue, #24, was released at the Nor'Easter Tournament back in March. It of course has the usual 3 scenarios, with one PTO mini-monster, a very cool Eastern Front situation from Day 1 of Operation Barbarossa and yet another Tournament Classic in the making from Steve Johns: The Bloody Torokina Perimeter: A nasty Japanese attack on the fixed positions of the 37th Infantry Division on Bougainville with plenty of toys and fire power on both sides, with the Japanese looking to capture or destroy USA pillboxes/bunkers and/or exit through the American defense. Vossenack Church: Another good looking Steve John's tourney style offering with a German infantry company trying to take the church in the scenario title. Both sides (Ger. vs USA) are spilt into platoon sized groups as several smaller battles lead into the main action at the church. Lots of standard 1944 ETO ASL FUN with the chrome coming from the SSR defining the Church. Grind Them to Dust: The first in our new Eastern front series following the 6th Panzer Division in the Barbarossa offensive by new contributor Robert Hammond. Elements of the 6th have to hack there way through Boards 34 and 36 and have several Russian blocking positions trying to prevent their exit. Robert has obviously done his homework with this series and after a few tweaks this one looks like a fine addition to our scenario series. We also have a nice analysis article by Jim Torkelson on 2 scenarios released in last years ASL Journal: Lenin's Sons and Marders, Not Martyrs. Carl Nogueira will continue his Making a Mess series with more on Fire. I'll have a review of the 2006 Bunker Bash and the New York State ASL Championship along with a preview of the Nor'Easter Tourney. For those unfamiliar with Dispatches, it is a 12 page Amateur ASL Newsletter that comes to the greater ASL Community twice a year, sometime in March and September courtesy of the New England ASL Community, including the Bunker Crew and our yasl Brothers in Southern New England. It typically contains 3 New Scenarios, Analysis of each one, a Main Article on any aspect of the game system, Tactical Tips, ASL News and Tournament Updates from our region. You may now view samples of our work at the ASL Webdex at: http://www.aslwebdex.net/ The specific page is at: http://www.aslwebdex.net/aslwebdex/Publishers/Bunker/bunker.html Thanks to Larry Memmott for giving us space there, you can view pdf. files of Issues #01 & #09 there, including the always popular Mighty Maus scenario. IF this sounds like Snake Eyes in CC followed by a 1 in your Leader Creation dr, Subscriptions and ALL Back-Issues are still available and here is how to get yours (all prices include S & H and PayPal Fees. Also Please make all checks/money orders out to Vic Provost, NOT Dispatches from the Bunker): 4 Issue Subscription (Starting with current Issue #24): In the USA: $15.00 (Check/Money Order/Cash or PayPal) Outside the States: $18.00 (International Postal Money Order,USA Currency or PayPal only. Sorry, NO Credit Cards, Personal Checks not drawn on a USA Bank, NO Western Union, this is an Old School Amateur Effort and our Hobby, not a Full Time 'Business' :-) If using PayPal please send your remittance in USA Funds via PayPal to: PinkFloydFan1954 at aol.com If using PayPal please also notify me here at aslbunker at aol.com with your shipping address and just what you are ordering, Thanks. Back-Issues and Bundles Back-Issues: Issue #01 is our FREE Preview Issue available with any New Subscription or upon request with a #10 SASE. All other Back-Issues (#02 - #23) are $4.00 Each in the USA or $4.50 Each outside the States. All 24 Issues in print (No subscription): $55.00 in the USA, $60.00 outside the states. The Works: All 24 Issues plus a 4 Issue Subscription, starting with current Issue #24 (27 Issues in total) $65.00 in the USA, $70.00 outside the states Make your remittance out to Vic Provost and send to: Vic Provost Dispatches from the Bunker P.O. Box 2024 Hinsdale MA 01235 USA Any other questions just reply to my e-mail at: aslbunker at aol.com and I'll do my best to answer your query. Thanks again to all my Contributors, Playtesters, and Subscribers, without whom the Newsletter would not be possible. Thanks for your time and consideration, your ASL Comrade, Vic Provost. 'SSR: All Occupants of the Bunker Location are considered Fanatic [A10.8]' ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ From s.eckhart at cox.net Mon Aug 20 17:04:59 2007 From: s.eckhart at cox.net (Stephen D. Eckhart) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:04:59 -0500 Subject: [Aslml] ASL at MAGECON XXIV Message-ID: <002401c7e386$ed585360$0401a8c0@steve> Guys, Just wanted to let you know that there will be an ASL tournament at MAGECON in South Sioux City, NE on Labor Day weekend. ASL will be played on Saturday and Sunday. You can sign up at http://www.mage-page.com/index.php?pageid=90 Hope to see you there! Steve Eckhart From swfancher at mindspring.com Tue Aug 21 15:30:49 2007 From: swfancher at mindspring.com (Seth W Fancher) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:30:49 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] ASL for sale! Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20070821182851.037458b0@pop.mindspring.com> I have some ASL modules that I have obtained and that I am willing to part with for the prices listed below (typically ~90% of my cost). I would rather make sure these go to interested gamers rather than speculators. But I am not looking to take a huge hit either. (And no, I am not leaving The Game - just selling some stuff). I will include USPS or UPS postage/shipping (my choice) for orders of more than $100. All items are shrink wrapped, except for items denoted by an asterisk *. These items are complete, un-punched and appear unused, but are not shrink wrapped. Please ask for a more complete description if you are interested in these items. The Annuals/Journals are all "new" except for the * copy of A93b. First come, first served (and if you have already expressed interest in an item and are considering, I will honor your previously expressed interest). I prefer payment by check to avoid those PayPal fees, but I for a close community like this, I will ship upon receipt of your check. If you live outside the US, let me know and we can work something out. I also have some components from BVv3, HH, and a Chapter S that has some highlighting. Please contact me off list at swfancher at mindspring dot com. Thanks all for your interest. Be well. Seth >Paratrooper v1 $ 30.00 >The Last Hurrah v1 $ 25.00 >The Last Hurrah (2nd) $ 25.00 >Hollow Legions $ 30.00 >Hollow Legions (2nd) $ 30.00 >Code of Bushido* $ 275.00 >Croix de Guerre $ 35.00 >Croix de Guerre $ 35.00 >Armies of Oblivion (hard) $ 90.00 >A Bridge Too Far* $ 175.00 >Operation Watchtower $ 35.00 >Operation Veritable $ 35.00 >Operation Veritable* $ 32.00 >ASL Action Pack #1 >ASK SK#1 $ 21.00 >ASL SK#3 $ 30.00 >ASLRB2 $ 65.00 >ASLRB v1 $ 50.00 >ASL Annual 89 $ 27.50 >ASL Annual '91 $ 21.00 >ASL Annual '93b $ 49.00 >ASL Annual '93b* $ 24.00 >ASL Annual '95 $ 70.00 >ASL Annual '97 $ 190.00 >ASL Classic $ 35.00 >Out of the Attic $ 15.00 >Journal #3 $ 22.00 >Journal #4 $ 45.00 >Journal #5 $ 17.00 >Journal #6 $ 23.00 >Journal #7 $ 20.00 >ASLRB Chapter Dividers $ 12.00 >Board 28 $ 4.00 >All American 3: Shanley's Hill $ 20.00 >All American: Timmes' Orchard (2nd) $ 18.00 >Aussie Pack '97 $ 8.00 >Aussie Pack '98 $ 8.00 >Leatherneck III: Call in the Army $ 8.00 >Hell's Bridgehead (2nd) $ 25.00 >Dien Bien Phu* $ 45.00 >Dispatches from the Bunker Vols 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,17,18,19,20,24 $ 30.00 >for all 12 >Schwerpunkt Vol 1 $ 22.00 >Schwerpunkt Vol 2 $ 22.00 >Schwerpunkt Vol 3 $ 22.00 >Schwerpunkt Vol 4 $ 22.00 >Schwerpunkt Vol 5 $ 22.00 >Schwerpunkt Vol 6 $ 22.00 >Schwerpunkt Vol 7 $ 22.00 From swfancher at mindspring.com Tue Aug 21 19:23:27 2007 From: swfancher at mindspring.com (Seth W Fancher) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:23:27 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] Action Pack #1 for sale Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20070821222148.0375aac0@pop.mindspring.com> I realize (through multiple queries) that I did not include a price for AP#1. My cost was $266, I will sell for $250. For that, I will cover postage within the US. Thanks to everyone for their interest. Be well. Seth From hofors at lysator.liu.se Wed Aug 22 14:08:39 2007 From: hofors at lysator.liu.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mattias_R=F6nnblom?=) Date: 22 Aug 2007 23:08:39 +0200 Subject: [Aslml] Entry of single off-board Radioless AFV Message-ID: <87veb7e0q0.fsf@isengard.friendlyfire.se> Hi all, a single (as in no other Radioless AFV in the OB) off-board Radioless AFV need not take a TC to move. Correct? Thanks, Mattias From bakken_80 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 22 14:32:44 2007 From: bakken_80 at hotmail.com (Bruce Bakken) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:32:44 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] Entry of single off-board Radioless AFV In-Reply-To: <87veb7e0q0.fsf@isengard.friendlyfire.se> Message-ID: Correct. Only onboard lone Radioless AFV need pass a NTC to move during the MPh. Regards, Bruce >From: Mattias R?nnblom >To: ASL Mailing List >Subject: [Aslml] Entry of single off-board Radioless AFV >Date: 22 Aug 2007 23:08:39 +0200 > >Hi all, > >a single (as in no other Radioless AFV in the OB) off-board Radioless >AFV need not take a TC to move. Correct? > >Thanks, > Mattias > >_______________________________________________ >Aslml mailing list >Aslml at lists.aslml.net >http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net >To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net _________________________________________________________________ Booking a flight? Know when to buy with airfare predictions on MSN Travel. http://travel.msn.com/Articles/aboutfarecast.aspx&ocid=T001MSN25A07001 From fred at sdccu.net Wed Aug 22 17:48:29 2007 From: fred at sdccu.net (Fred) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:48:29 -0700 Subject: [Aslml] Entry of single off-board Radioless AFV In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46CCD95D.6080103@sdccu.net> Bruce, Not quite correct. There was errata in one of the Journals requiring ALL offboard Radioless AFV's to use platoon movement or take a NTC (and not stated in the errata be eliminated for not entering the map if they fail.) This same issue had a scenario with a single radioless AFV, I wrote Perry and got an answer that if there is only 1 AFV and it is radioless it doesn't need to make a NTC. If there is more than one AFV then you need to make the NTC or enter in platoon movement even if there is just one radioless AFV (of course not all the radio AFVs need enter in platoon movemen.) Fred Bruce Bakken wrote: > > Correct. Only onboard lone Radioless AFV need pass a NTC to move during > the MPh. > > Regards, > Bruce > >> From: Mattias R?nnblom >> To: ASL Mailing List >> Subject: [Aslml] Entry of single off-board Radioless AFV >> Date: 22 Aug 2007 23:08:39 +0200 >> >> Hi all, >> >> a single (as in no other Radioless AFV in the OB) off-board Radioless >> AFV need not take a TC to move. Correct? >> >> Thanks, >> Mattias >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aslml mailing list >> Aslml at lists.aslml.net >> http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net >> To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net > > _________________________________________________________________ > Booking a flight? Know when to buy with airfare predictions on MSN > Travel. > http://travel.msn.com/Articles/aboutfarecast.aspx&ocid=T001MSN25A07001 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net From klas_malmstrom at yahoo.se Wed Aug 22 23:34:46 2007 From: klas_malmstrom at yahoo.se (=?iso-8859-1?q?Klas=20Malmstr=F6m?=) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:34:46 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Aslml] Entry of single off-board Radioless AFV In-Reply-To: <46CCD95D.6080103@sdccu.net> Message-ID: <305458.53558.qm@web27912.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi, --- Fred skrev: > > Bruce, > > Not quite correct. There was errata in one of the Journals requiring ALL > offboard Radioless AFV's to use platoon movement or take a NTC (and not > stated in the errata be eliminated for not entering the map if they > fail.) This same issue had a scenario with a single radioless AFV, I > wrote Perry and got an answer that if there is only 1 AFV and it is > radioless it doesn't need to make a NTC. If there is more than one AFV > then you need to make the NTC or enter in platoon movement even if there > is just one radioless AFV (of course not all the radio AFVs need enter > in platoon movemen.) According to rule D14.212 (from AoO) an offboard non-radio AFV must use platoon movement if possible: "...An offboard radioless AFV must use Platoon Movement if possible." If it is the only AFV in the scenario, then PM is not possible. And according to A14.23 the NTC for moving alone is only for onboard vehicles. Regards, Klas Malmstrom ------------------------------------------------------- Klas Malmstrom Linkoping, Sweden Email: klas_malmstrom at yahoo.se ------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Fly(g) fr?n regnet - s?k efter resor hos Yahoo! Shopping. J?mf?r pris p? flygbiljetter och hotellrum h?r: http://shopping.yahoo.se/c-169901-resor-biljetter.html?partnerId=96914052 From swfancher at mindspring.com Thu Aug 23 18:21:34 2007 From: swfancher at mindspring.com (Seth W Fancher) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:21:34 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] More ASL for Sale Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20070823210903.03761780@pop.mindspring.com> I have the following additional items for sale. If they don't go at these prices, I will put them on eBay in a couple of weeks. Consider this an early "Buy-It-Now" opportunity. Prices are all based on what I paid for these (auctions went to conclusion) within the last month" All games go "first come, first served." Kampfgruppe Pieper - new, in shrink wrap. $160, postage to the US included (international parties - $155, plus [probably] $37 for S&H). Kampfgruppe Pieper II - new, in shrink wrap. $160, postage to the US included (international parties - $155, plus [probably] $37 for S&H). Red Barricades - complete, unpunched. The game was shrink wrapped when I received it. I wanted "new" Chapter O pages, so my "old" Chap O is included. Chap O has some highlighting on the pages, and the reinforcing rings around the holes on the pages. For most of their life (~10 years) these pages have been stored in sheet protectors. I paid $165 including S&H. Given that the rules are not "new" anymore, I'll let this go for $125 which includes postage within the US (international parties - $120, plus applicable S&H). I don't really want to be paid by PayPal, but if that is required (e.g. for international buyers), add $6 for the PayPal fees (2.9% + 30 cents). I am posting this only online today - I'll post it to the ASL Forums this weekend if they are still left. Thanks for the interest. Be well. Seth From prauld at comcast.net Fri Aug 24 18:24:55 2007 From: prauld at comcast.net (Philip R. Auld) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:24:55 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] Electronic format V1 to v2 changes. Message-ID: <20070825012454.GA6335@vienna.egenera.com> Hi All, Does anyone have a copy of the changes between v1 and v2? The link on ASL webdex is not valid anymore. Thanks in advance, Phil From payne-asl2 at nc.rr.com Sat Aug 25 13:16:38 2007 From: payne-asl2 at nc.rr.com (Chuck Payne) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 20:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Aslml] 2 Q&A Responses (Factory Breach and Disrupted Unit) Message-ID: Hi All, Here are Perry's responses to a couple of questions that I posted to MMP. I don't know if this puts them in the official category or not. Question:In O5.331 when breaching a factory wall hexside it says "the hexside's effects remain unchanged except as follows: units may move/rout/advance/Withdraw-from-Melee, and same-level (only) LOS may be drawn, across it as if it were a wall (exclusive of its vertices, whose status remains unchanged by the Breach);\" Do units need to claim WA to see through the breach beyond the adjacent hex? No, since a unit behind a Wall does not need this. Does the breach provide HD status to an AFV adjacent to the breach if the LOS crosses through the breach? Does the breach prevent bow-mounted armament (BMG or FT for OT-34) from being used if LOS is treated as if being a wall? Does the breached factory wall provide a +2 TEM as a wall (assuming the hex just has factory TEM otherwise)? No to all: The rule only says that LOS may be drawn as if it is a wall. No other Wall rules apply. Question: If a unit is disrupted and No Quarter is in effect, what happens to the disrupted unit if an enemy unit moves into its location during the MPh? Is it immediately eliminated? (It would surrender immediately in NQ were not in effect.) No. If not eliminated, what mechanics are used for routing away during the opponent's MPh? It does not rout away during the opponent's MPh. It routs away as normal during its RtPh (or is eliminated for failure to rout if unable to rout) - just as if an enemy unit had entered the Location of a non-Disrupted broken unit (Berserk, HW/Banzai). ....Perry MMP Regards, Chuck From llm at memmott.us Sat Aug 25 20:51:30 2007 From: llm at memmott.us (llm at memmott.us) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 20:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Aslml] Seeking a VASL email opponent Message-ID: <4134.124.104.7.218.1188100290.squirrel@www.memmott.us> Moderately experienced opponent. Will play anyone. Particularly interested in PTO, DTO, night, snow, and other less explored corners of the system. I have most official product (a bit behind on the last few purchases), and a fair amount of 3rd party stuff. I'm in the orient, so it is usually easy to get a file off each day, but hard to do more. Looking for one game, and will take on the first responder. Larry Memmott From mseningen at austin.rr.com Sun Aug 26 13:46:27 2007 From: mseningen at austin.rr.com (Mike Seningen) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 15:46:27 -0500 Subject: [Aslml] Opponent Wanted -- Munich or Innsbruck In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46D1E6A3.1050405@austin.rr.com> Looking for a hook-up -- I will be in Munich from 9/10-9/15 and Innsbruck from 9/15-9/19. I've got a conference to attend and some site seeing to do -- but I would be interested in playing someone local one of the evenings that I am in town. I've been playing forever -- but not that much recently. In other words, I can play anything, but expect me to be rustier than a PTO relic. If you have a small travel setup -- I'm sure we can meet in a beer hall and commiserate about our poor dice! cheers, Mike Seningen From bignoodle at earthlink.net Sun Aug 26 18:09:34 2007 From: bignoodle at earthlink.net (donald holland) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:09:34 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] Lone Canuck Tourney Message-ID: <380-2200781271934859@earthlink.net> They are looking for a few more good men to fill the bracket. Tons of prizes, no entry fee and you don't even need to own the scenario's! And the rare chance to "Beat the Noodle". http://www.gamesquad.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68135&page=7 Don "Big Noodle" Holland bignoodle at earthlink.net VASL V5 ROCKS!!! From cfago at ix.netcom.com Mon Aug 27 16:32:50 2007 From: cfago at ix.netcom.com (Carl Fago) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:32:50 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] "New" Rule Found! Message-ID: <00e501c7e902$9645ed40$6401a8c0@laptop> Someone over on CSW pointed out rule A10.1, "Failure of a TC results in the inability of that unit to perform that task during that phase and prohibits the unit from attempting any other action during that phase [EXC: FPF PAATC; D7.21]." I, for one, hadn't noticed this before. Implications seem limited to the MPh where actions by both sides can occur. Interesting to find something "basic" yet "new" in this game (at least for this addled brain). Carl From geb3 at inter.net Mon Aug 27 19:36:54 2007 From: geb3 at inter.net (George Bates) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:36:54 +0900 Subject: [Aslml] Paging Alex Key Message-ID: <000c01c7e91c$4e50c220$030ba8c0@RustyNail> Fellas, Alex has "gone dark" this past two weeks. I'm hoping it's a holiday after his most recent project and not a personal emergency of any kind. If anyone is in regular contact with him, would you please ask him to check his mailbox or voice mail and get back to me? Much appreciated. Cheers! George Bates Yokohama, Japan Gaming by the Bay 1st Sunday of each month. Swim on over! We'll leave the light on for you. Now in progress: AP22 Ghost Riders, Soviet vs. Zaha Shuji & Furuta 9 To The Square, Soviet vs. David Olie From hobbies at revealed.net Mon Aug 27 20:07:33 2007 From: hobbies at revealed.net (Alex Key) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:07:33 -0500 Subject: [Aslml] Paging Alex Key In-Reply-To: <000c01c7e91c$4e50c220$030ba8c0@RustyNail> References: <000c01c7e91c$4e50c220$030ba8c0@RustyNail> Message-ID: <46D39175.6010605@revealed.net> George, I emailed you on the 22nd that the two boxes arrived. Alex George Bates wrote: >Fellas, > >Alex has "gone dark" this past two weeks. I'm hoping it's a holiday after >his most recent project and not a personal emergency of any kind. If anyone >is in regular contact with him, would you please ask him to check his >mailbox or voice mail and get back to me? Much appreciated. > >Cheers! > >George Bates >Yokohama, Japan >Gaming by the Bay 1st Sunday of each month. >Swim on over! We'll leave the light on for you. > >Now in progress: >AP22 Ghost Riders, Soviet vs. Zaha Shuji & Furuta >9 To The Square, Soviet vs. David Olie > > > > > > From rln22 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 28 07:10:01 2007 From: rln22 at yahoo.com (Robert Nelson) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Aslml] "New" Rule Found! In-Reply-To: <00e501c7e902$9645ed40$6401a8c0@laptop> Message-ID: <53789.54774.qm@web51603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Does this mean that, if a defending unit fails a PAATC near the beginning of the MPh, and does no other fire, and the moving AFV leaves its hex and stops elsewhere...if I then run an infantry unit right at the 'pinned' but otherwise unmarked MMC, it can't shoot at me!?!?! --- Carl Fago wrote: > Someone over on CSW pointed out rule A10.1, "Failure > of a TC results in the > inability of that unit to perform that task during > that phase and prohibits > the unit from attempting any other action during > that phase [EXC: FPF PAATC; > D7.21]." > > I, for one, hadn't noticed this before. Implications > seem limited to the MPh > where actions by both sides can occur. > > Interesting to find something "basic" yet "new" in > this game (at least for > this addled brain). > > Carl > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email > webmaster at aslml.net > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 From cfago at ix.netcom.com Wed Aug 29 17:08:49 2007 From: cfago at ix.netcom.com (Carl Fago) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:08:49 -0400 Subject: [Aslml] "New" Rule Found! In-Reply-To: <53789.54774.qm@web51603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000401c7ea99$f21692d0$6801a8c0@laptop> Yes. That's what it means. Same for any other failed TC (with the EXC of the EXC) such as LLTC results. Carl > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Nelson [mailto:rln22 at yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:10 AM > To: cfago at ix.netcom.com; aslml at lists.aslml.net > Subject: Re: [Aslml] "New" Rule Found! > > Does this mean that, if a defending unit fails a PAATC > near the beginning of the MPh, and does no other fire, > and the moving AFV leaves its hex and stops > elsewhere...if I then run an infantry unit right at > the 'pinned' but otherwise unmarked MMC, it can't > shoot at me!?!?! > > > --- Carl Fago wrote: > > > Someone over on CSW pointed out rule A10.1, "Failure > > of a TC results in the > > inability of that unit to perform that task during > > that phase and prohibits > > the unit from attempting any other action during > > that phase [EXC: FPF PAATC; > > D7.21]." > > > > I, for one, hadn't noticed this before. Implications > > seem limited to the MPh > > where actions by both sides can occur. > > > > Interesting to find something "basic" yet "new" in > > this game (at least for > > this addled brain). > > > > Carl > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Aslml mailing list > > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email > > webmaster at aslml.net > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > __________ > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! > http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 From reamees at earthlink.net Thu Aug 30 16:14:36 2007 From: reamees at earthlink.net (Raymond Woloszyn) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:14:36 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Aslml] New Rule Message-ID: <10320958.1188515676672.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Trying to bring life to this mailing list, Carl? Good luck...seems to be on autopilot as of late. Ray. From geb3 at inter.net Thu Aug 30 16:24:04 2007 From: geb3 at inter.net (George Bates) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:24:04 +0900 Subject: [Aslml] New Rule In-Reply-To: <10320958.1188515676672.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <001301c7eb5c$dda20550$030ba8c0@RustyNail> I'm not dead yet! - G -----Original Message----- From: aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net [mailto:aslml-bounces at lists.aslml.net] On Behalf Of Raymond Woloszyn Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:15 AM To: aslml at lists.aslml.net Subject: [Aslml] New Rule Trying to bring life to this mailing list, Carl? Good luck...seems to be on autopilot as of late. Ray. _______________________________________________ Aslml mailing list Aslml at lists.aslml.net http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net From rjmosher at hughes.net Fri Aug 31 14:56:28 2007 From: rjmosher at hughes.net (ron mosher) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:56:28 -0500 Subject: [Aslml] New Rule In-Reply-To: <001301c7eb5c$dda20550$030ba8c0@RustyNail> References: <10320958.1188515676672.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <001301c7eb5c$dda20550$030ba8c0@RustyNail> Message-ID: <46CE77DD00172819@n120.sc0.he.tucows.com> (added by postmaster@bouncemessage.net) At 06:24 PM 8/30/2007, George Bates wrote: >I'm not dead yet! Hmm..a member of the polish royal family???...hmmm?? ron from Lebanon, Mo; turn right at the "Pavement Ends" sign. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/981 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 6:13 AM From geb3 at inter.net Fri Aug 31 17:41:00 2007 From: geb3 at inter.net (George Bates) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 09:41:00 +0900 Subject: [Aslml] New Rule In-Reply-To: <46CE77DD00172819@n120.sc0.he.tucows.com> (added by postmaster@bouncemessage.net) Message-ID: <000a01c7ec30$c8301c50$030ba8c0@RustyNail> A Romanov, sir. - G -----Original Message----- From: ron mosher [mailto:rjmosher at hughes.net] Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 6:56 AM To: George Bates; 'Raymond Woloszyn'; aslml at lists.aslml.net Subject: Re: [Aslml] New Rule At 06:24 PM 8/30/2007, George Bates wrote: >I'm not dead yet! Hmm..a member of the polish royal family???...hmmm?? ron from Lebanon, Mo; turn right at the "Pavement Ends" sign. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/981 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 6:13 AM From arlenvanek at hotmail.com Fri Aug 31 20:18:33 2007 From: arlenvanek at hotmail.com (Arlen Vanek) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:18:33 -0500 Subject: [Aslml] New Rule References: <000a01c7ec30$c8301c50$030ba8c0@RustyNail> Message-ID: it should be noted that whenever you hit reply to all the reply is sent out to everyone on the list. it would be considered proper listserv ediquette to only reply to the person who sent the original message unless the reply pertains to everyone. i dont know about everyone else but i'd rather not listen to your personal conversation - it fills my inbox up with bullshi* i dont want to have to chose whether or not i want to subscribe to this very informative listserv just based the inconsiderate actions of a few. the only reason im being a little hard core on this one is - i know this has been addressed before and some people just dont get it. arlen - ft worth ps any metroplex gamers ever want to get together and throw one together let me know ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bates" To: "'ron mosher'" ; "'Raymond Woloszyn'" ; Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [Aslml] New Rule >A Romanov, sir. > > - G > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ron mosher [mailto:rjmosher at hughes.net] > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 6:56 AM > To: George Bates; 'Raymond Woloszyn'; aslml at lists.aslml.net > Subject: Re: [Aslml] New Rule > > > At 06:24 PM 8/30/2007, George Bates wrote: >>I'm not dead yet! > > Hmm..a member of the polish royal family???...hmmm?? > > > ron from Lebanon, Mo; turn right at the "Pavement Ends" sign. > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/981 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 > 6:13 AM > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aslml mailing list > Aslml at lists.aslml.net > http://lists.aslml.net/listinfo.cgi/aslml-aslml.net > To unsubscribe, visit the above website, or email webmaster at aslml.net >